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    2023-24 NFL Season Thread

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    That's the thing. Jameis Winston is 100%, in my opinion, better than Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett. But he's not good enough and the upside isn't there.

    I still think fields finds a spot, but I'm concerned given Getsy's job and the warm market for mooney, it really seems like the NFL is pointing at fields as the problem when most of the bears fan base believed it was his situation.

     

    2023-24 NFL Season Thread

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

    You don’t think one of the three receivers will drop to 9?  I could see one of the QB needy teams jumping on McCarthy early before 9.

    even so, but even with 4 QBs, the problem is every single team 3-8 could take a WR easily, and these are three strong receivers. Brugler keeps mocking QB-QB-QB-WR-WR-WR. 

    ST Thread

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    19 hours ago, hi8is said:

    Fun fact: we have the worst run differential in all of baseball so far this spring!

    Yes!! That’s right folks… we’re the BEST at something already!!!

    yikes

    2023-24 NFL Season Thread

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    I don't think we'll get one of the top 3 receivers and it's a bummer. But I just can't pull the trigger on one of these edges. I also think they are too light for what Flus has been looking for. 

    I'd rather trade back from 9 and target McConkey/Thomas Jr.

    I can't tell if I'll overrate McConkey too much. You think maybe at first round you'll overrate the 3rd level + physical end zone threat to the point you miss the guy that can get open constantly. But if I have a worry it's that I'll think he'll be St. Brown and instead he's Jerry Jeudy, who is of similar slight build and that lack of physicality really made him much less impactful.

    But McConkey is more explosive than Jeudy. Nonetheless, Thomas Jr is a nice secondary piece, but more of a Christian Watson type.

    2023-24 NFL Season Thread

    in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub

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    As someone concerned when he didn't show up to media his last game (which I had more context on later), gotta say I was pretty impressed with Williams, who had some media come pretty hard at him, how well he handled and even seemed to relish a bit.

    He's clearly not going to be a "gosh what a nice guy" type player, but I do think he has shown he can handle this pretty damn well.

    I do wonder how much frustration we will see from media types who will now be exclusively with players who, like, never read the sports pages of a paper and who did not digest their athletes exclusively through the eyes of beat writers. The press conferences are going to be different with people like that.

    Sox trade Matthew Thompson to Cubs for old friend Bailey Horn

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 hour ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

    Maybe Horn is that long term lefty piece in the pen to replace Bummer and Crochet (if he makes the switch to starting).

    Or maybe he isn't. But they turned a rental of 30yo journeyman RHRP Keynan Middleton into a RH starter who has Thompson's positives of youth (22yo) and workload (222.2 IP over the last two seasons) with better control (3.3 BB/9) and better results (3.58 ERA).

    Both are Rule 5 guys, but one seems closer to earning a roster spot. You can hold both and hope that Thompson makes a step this year that he hasn't made in the previous two...or you can cash in now if you think it's unlikely that he raises his value (to this team or another) before hitting minor league free agency.

    And in the meantime you have several years of a lefty with good stuff who you can keep or trade as you please. Horn finished 2021 at A+ with a WHIP approaching 2 and an ERA well over 5. He repeated the level the next year, and dominated with a .700 WHIP and 0 ER in 10 appearances before being promoted. 

    His first time at AA, he struggled again with a high WHIP (but a reasonable 3.46 ERA). Repeating AA last season, he dominates again with a <1 WHIP and 2 ERA before another quick promotion. He struggles again with a high WHIP his first time in AAA...Sensing a pattern?

    I get that the Sox currently have Schrodinger's 40 man, where spots are either precious and limited or full of unsalvageable detritus who should be cut without hesitation, depending on what allows for the harshest judgement in the moment.

    But the Sox are apparently convinced by Horn's demonstrated capacity for adjustment and progression that Thompson hasn't flashed yet (and reasonably confident in their ability to backfill future needs for RHSP with guys like Juan Carela and the upcoming crop of draft arms).

    I'm not sure you get to accuse the move of being shortsighted if your "analysis" consists of "don't trade starters for relievers" or 23 < 26.

    Sounds like we could have waited for Horn to fail at the MLB level because he sucks after every promotion and then traded Dalquist for him.

     

    Sox trade Matthew Thompson to Cubs for old friend Bailey Horn

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

    Matt Thompson and Baily Horn have the exact same amount of control.  Sure, Horn is a couple years older, but the Sox traded a guy who extremely likely to never make it for a guy that has a decent chance to be a part of the Sox bullpen the next half decade+, and has three options. 

    I also don't really understand why some here are grouping Dom Fletcher into the "low upside situational player" pool.  He looks like a 2 WAR floor player that can play above average OF defense all three OF positions.

    Jesus christ, the guy is 26 and still has no guarantee of making an mlb roster. That does not scream "decent chance to be part of the sox bullpen for the next half decade" unless it is meant as an insult to how terrible this team is.

    Is anyone a wee bit interested to see how Thompson, who was able to pitch 130 innings as a starter last year, could have seen his stuff play up in a reliever role (which Horn already had to transition to because he was a garbage starter in college?), where his fastball could be thrown harder and his two pitch arsenal was less of a vulnerability?

    Could that have made the guy "extremely likely to never make it) (which again we are discussing for a guy who was 22/23 in AA last year, vs a guy was a bad reliever in AAA as a 25 year old and was unlikely to make the team so was traded?

    I don't know. Makes you think!

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    Sox trade Matthew Thompson to Cubs for old friend Bailey Horn

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

    Not that I think Thompson will amount to much (I am much higher on Mena) Getz trading younger prospects for 26 year old AAAA players is getting annoying. 

    Fathom talked about how Robert succeeding in this system means he must have been the greatest natural baseball player of all time, i've talked about how we run our prospects like mr. glass in unbreakable (a widely watched film we all know and love), just blowing up class after calss of them trying to find the super human that can succeed...

    Our pitching was so garbage last year top down. Mena succeeded getting guys out should have been a sign he was super human. He's basically Nolan Ryan now in a real org. Thompson is not close to Mena, but he is athletic and actually pitched and didn't just get injured all year. Not great, but a starter in AA.

    He's probably not a hall of famer but at this point my assumption is solid 10x all star.

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    Javier Magollon hype

    in FutureSox Board

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    avier Mogollon, 2B, White Sox

    Mogollon was arguably the biggest pop-up prospect in the White Sox’s system in 2023. The Venezuelan infielder was a low-dollar signing in the 2023 international class and put forth an outstanding debut season in the DSL that included a .999 OPS and 10 home runs. Mogollon is a twitchy athlete with the potential for 50s and 55s all across his scouting card and a plus arm that could handle stints at shortstop. He’s also already shown the knack for pulling balls hard and in the air. 
     

    Badler

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/22-dsl-prospects-who-could-make-noise-stateside-in-2024/

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    Sox looking at building in South Loop

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    5 minutes ago, Lightly Folded said:

    If by some miracle they get the new ballpark I have the new name for the park. “South Side Hate Park” also known as “The Hate”. 

    Oooh, also have a designated gate as "the Hate Gate" and it's just a bunch of statues of La Russa like hanging up "La Russa's lounge sign" over the original Loretta's lounge. And like, strewn with covers of Cigar Magazine interviews with Jerry.

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