Everything posted by Rex Hudler
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Official Recruiting Thread II
QUOTE (zenryan @ Dec 7, 2010 -> 07:50 PM) According to the Orlando Sentinel, Dee Hart said Alabama isnt in his plans and it's between Michigan and UF. I read that this morning. For some reason, Alabama didn't really want him. At least they didn't want to give him a shot at tailback and wanted him to be more of a slot, specialty type player. That I don't understand.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
Indiana to announce Kevin Wilson as their new Head Coach Tuesday at 4pm eastern. Wilson has been the Offensive Coordinator at Oklahoma.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
I'm okay with Mississippi State. Not an offensive juggernaut.... at least not until they play our D
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 5, 2010 -> 03:03 PM) Most everything I've heard about UT has suggested they're on their way to Nashville for the Music City Bowl. Originally they were saying UM/Florida in the Gator, but the Gator Bowl chairman basically said Florida won't be their first choice because they want to bring in non-local $$ and having UF will not put heads in beds, aka fill hotel rooms. Nothing is set, but that is the latest as of a day or two ago.
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Official Recruiting Thread II
Dee Hart didn't publicly decommit and commit to Alabama, but he's made it pretty clear that if Rodriguez is fired, he'll play elsewhere. Fortunately, the timeline is workable w/ Michigan likely playing in the Gator Bowl on Jan 1. As long as the decision is made before the US Army AA Game, he can enroll at Michigan the following week. The situation is tenuous at best and I'm sure a plan B will be ready. He may yet get tired of waiting and go ahead and pull the trigger to Bama (or someone else). Apparently, Bama turned up the heat when Isaiah Crowell named Georgia as his leader. Ultimately, I think Michigan has a chance at the US Army game, but its certainly not a comfortable situation for anyone.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
dasox24, I am hearing Michigan vs Tennessee in the Gator Bowl. What are you hearing?
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Official Recruiting Thread II
QUOTE (zenryan @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 09:10 AM) That would be a major blow. The kid is unreal. Went to the game last week and he had 6 TDs. He has definitely decommitted from Michigan. That said, until he is enrolled, I guarantee you Michigan won't stop recruiting him. In this case, I'd like our chances a lot better if he were not an early enrollee. If we had until Signing Day, I would feel more comfortable. And you are correct, that is a MAJOR blow.
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Official Recruiting Thread II
Word has it Dee Hart is going to decommit from Michigan and switch to Alabama after tomorrow night's game. Michigan coaches will be at Dr. Phillips HS tomorrow, let's hope they can change his mind. The problem is he is an early enrollee and the Michigan AD has not committed either way to Rodriguez' status. Even if he stays, without an endorsement now, the early enrollees are understandably worried that a coaching change could happen right as they are entering school or worse, after.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (dasox24 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 11:49 PM) How dare you respond with rational thoughts... Part of the reason I wish Cam would get suspended stems to one of my roommates being a huge, life-long Auburn fan and I am so sick of listening to all his bulls***. It would give me no greater pleasure than to have Cam suspended (and Auburn exposed) to shut him up. He's so damn arrogant and cocky about how Auburn is unstoppable, blah blah blah. I'm like "Dude, you don't even go to school there." Plus, Cam annoys the hell out of me when he plays. Always smiling & acting like he's so f***ing good (I mean, he is an awesome player but I hate when guys act all big and bad - just shut up and play football). And that stuff he pulls when he lays on the ground for a few seconds every time he gets tackled, making it look like he might be hurt or something... but then he pops up off the ground and has that huge smirk on his face. GTFO, Cam. Just get up and go back to the huddle. No need to make a huge scene at the end of every play. Does he lay on the ball all the time? I have only noticed it in the 4th quarter when they were ahead as if he was trying to milk a few more seconds off the clock. But I wasn't really looking for it either. I noticed he did it late in the Bama game after they got the lead. As far as fans go I guess a lot depends on your own biases and team. Personally I find Auburn fans 10x more bearable than Alabama fans. Auburn fans to me come across as excited about their team. Alabama fans in general act as if it is their God-given right to go to the NC game or at least a BCS Bowl.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 08:02 AM) I wouldn't be surprised if UNC lost their next two games. If you guys can win at Butler, you can win at home against UNC. I'm hoping to make the 6-hour drive to see it. I doubt it will happen, but I'd like to be at least competitive.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 09:22 PM) Now you guys get to see first hand the stupidity that is UNC basketball. Poorly coached, can't shoot, and have zero basketball IQ. It's like the program just took a vacation after 09 and never came back. Can they hold off until December 9 to come back???
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
My last post tonight on the matter... Here is my understanding on what happened today. The NCAA is investigating the allegations involving Cecil Newton, Kenny Rodgers and Miss St. That is ongoing and has nothing to do with this ruling. Auburn turned their investigation over to the NCAA this week and declared Newton ineligible and requested a ruling and reinstatement. The NCAA made their ruling based on what they KNOW and the investigation Auburn presented. From what I heard today, it is not uncommon for the NCAA to make quick rulings on player eligibility when the issue arises during the season. If before or after the season, they tend to take their sweet assed time. This is just a very high profile case. Apparently, there are many eligibility cased presented each year in all sports and the NCAA rules quickly in many of them. This came from a couple of attorneys that have experience dealing with the NCAA. Today's ruling was more procedural than investigative. More could still come down the pike, but with a game Saturday, the NCAA was forced to act quickly. The attorneys interviewed indicated this was selective timing from Auburn and the best possible scenario.
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QUOTE (zenryan @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 04:37 PM) So we're suppose to believe that Newton's dad was shopping his son around but decided that he didnt want any money and send his son to Auburn? If he didnt want any money, you'd think he would have sent him to Miss St since Cam liked Mullen. I think this is a case of the NCAA just trying to end the speculation of a player headed into possibly the national title game. I'd be shocked if the NCAA isnt doing more investigating come this summer into Newton and Auburn. Is it not POSSIBLE that Kenny Rodgers the "agent" that played for MSU, tried to get a big score for his school by telling Cecil Newton he could get him money and it didn't have to be for free this time? Cecil indicated an openness to it and went along. Once that fell through and he didn't get anything from Miss St, he moved on and realized the best place for Cam was at Auburn? I'm not saying that is what happened, but it IS possible. As Soxbadger has stated, until all the facts are known they can only go on what they do know as fact.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (dasox24 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 12:48 PM) Yeah, the NCAA is a joke... but I guess we've always known that. I guess AJ Green's dad could have sold his jersey and he wouldn't have been suspended for 4 games this year. Actually there is a difference.. In your scenario money changed hands. In this case, the only thing establised is there was talk, but no proof of any kind money changed hands. So if AJ Green's dad offered his jersey for $1000 but never sold it, there would not be an issue. Also, keep in mind that these are allegations about Newton's father asking for money from a school other than the one he is playing for. And before you assume, don't forget that Oklahoma has gone on record that there was nothing out of the ordinary with Cam's recruitment. That said this is technically a loophole in the NCAA bylaws/interpretations. Expect it to get closed with a new rule very quickly, which will keep this from becoming a precedent. JMO Lastly, this is simply an ineligibility ruling based on Auburn's investigation presentation to the NCAA. Should more details come out or the NCAA find anything pointing to Auburn while they investigate the allegations with his father and MSU there will certainly be repurcussions. There is still a possibility much more can come of this. All I think today's ruling states is that facts are more important than inuuendo and assumption and to this point, the facts are as they ruled. So it could be far from over.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (Palehosefan @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 12:00 PM) NCAA clears Cam Newton http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/12...cam_newton.html Rex Hudler tells Palehosefan to F himself. LOL
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 29, 2010 -> 09:14 PM) TCU is in the Big East. They dont qualify anymore. (haha that will be my excuse) I think its going to be a great game and I actually would have argued for TCU over Boise St. I think that TCU joining the Big East is just in case Auburn or Oregon goes down, they basically ensured that they are next in line for the Championship game. I'll give you that if the Big East allows TCU to be their representative this year!
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 29, 2010 -> 08:15 PM) I gotta disagree with this. The difference between BCS conference and non-BCS is staggering. I am a Wisconsin fan, so I will use them as an example. Since 2002 ( as far as ESPN goes back), Wisconsin has lost 1 game to a non-bcs team (2003 UNLV). I believe they are 23-1 in that span. Wisconsin is on average a solid Big 10 team, but by no means the best. Basically Wisconsin matched Boise's streak, over a 9 year span, with 2 different classes and no one cares because those are games a big program should NEVER lose. I really have no doubt that most top SEC or Big 10 schools, would win 20+ out of 24 games. In fact most of the teams that Boise State beats, are considered teams that the BCS teams MUST beat. If they dont beat them its an upset. Id say that if Iowa and Boise State played 100 times, I would expect Iowa to win 60% of the games. Better be ready to back that up, because it looks like your Badgers are going to get TCU in the Rose Bowl!
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 02:20 PM) And THATTTTTTS the ballgame. Only 7 points RichRod? Hope you stay another year. 7 in a row vs UM 6th straight Big Ten title The Vest is 9-1 vs UM Tressel took it easy on Michigan today.... pulled in the reins. It could have been much uglier.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
Evansville won at Butler today. I'll take it!
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Official Recruiting Thread II
QUOTE (He_Gawn @ Nov 24, 2010 -> 10:27 AM) He isn't far. I'm not sure if you have a Peegs membership and got to read his interview Sunday, but I would be surprised if he's not a Hoosier this month. I don't anymore. Would you mind sending the text to me in a PM? Is it small enough to do so?
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Official Recruiting Thread II
Yogi Ferrell to commit to IU Wednesday evening. How far behind may Gary Harris be? I think they have room for one more.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 19, 2010 -> 08:04 PM) I think they payed them, but I think it's a situation of Miss St trying to bring another program down with them. I don't think Auburn is guilty of doing anything that any other program in the country has done. Well successful one that is. A couple of people on different boards have stated they have legit sources saying Urban was the original leak and guy pushing this stuff to the forefront. Urban leaking the info would not surprise me. Well him doing so directly would, but he's smart enough to get it out and keep his hands clean. There is just a lot of speculation and rumors flying, most of which are unsubstantiated. Time will tell.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 18, 2010 -> 10:52 PM) Decent theory/read on Cam. http://slumz.boxden.com/f16/requested-watc...2/#post17540460 It's possible Auburn did pay Newton. But this stuff has been going around the past few days. It's a combination of old news and stuff Alabama fans dug up and posted on Bama message boards. It is far from credible. For example, do you really think it would be public knowledge that the FBI has wiretaps of conversations to turn into the NCAA? Do you think the FBI is releasing that info? Hell no. The NCAA doesn't say squat about pending investigations, so who would know? It's all conjecture and not based on factual knowledge.
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QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 18, 2010 -> 08:12 PM) As far as Cam being solicited, either way, if he took money, whether offered to him or not, he's still in violation. I do wonder though if Florida did give him money originally. They've been awfully quiet throughout this. There is no doubt if money changed hands and landed in the hands or business interest (aka church) of Cecil Newton, then there is a major problem. At this point there has been nothing indicating that happened however. At most, to this point Cecil could be guilty of trying to get money from Miss State. He's playing at Auburn so obviously he didn't get money from them. If there's more, it hasn't come out yet.
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Official 2010-2011 NCAA Football Thread
Some more about the Cam Newton situation.... Here is what I know with some opinion mixed in. 1. Three former Miss State players have accused Cecil Newton of asking for money, some directly more involved than others. 2. Bill Bell says he received text messages from Kenny Rogers requesting a payment schedule. I believe it was $80k the day after he signed, $30k 30 days later and another $50k 30 days after that. Or something close to those numbers. 3. Bell says he never spoke to Cecil Newton about money directly, only through Kenny Rogers, but Cecil was on three way calls when money was discussed. Below are questions that jump out at me. That said, I am by no means making judgement and indicating anyone is guilty or innocent, just that some things still don't make sense. If Newton did in fact damand money (especially that much) then he should be punished to the extent allowed. 1. Why did all of this hit the media now? Who leaked it and why? The NCAA had requested financial records from Cecil Newton's church over a month before this came out. John Bond, the original source doesn't seem to be involved directly. So why are John Bond, Kenny Rogers and Bill Bell telling their stories to the media now? If all is true exactly as they say the timing doesn't ultimately matter, but I'm still wondering why now? 2. All three are Miss State alums/former players. Their story seems to be more organized now than 2 weeks ago when the story first broke. Seems slightly strange to me. 3. How did Bill Bell get involved if Miss State has never done anything like this before? Why would John bond tell Kenny Rogers to contact Bill Bell rather than just telling him to go f**k himself? Makes me wonder if the $$ amounts were smaller would he have made the payments? 4. What would give Cecil Newton the idea he could get that kind of money? He had been through the recruiting process before. If Florida did not give him/offer money or he did not ask for it then, what makes him think he could command money, let alone that amount after an arrest and leaving Florida for a JC? Hey my son just had a great year at junior college, I think I can make some money, just doesn't ring as rational thinking to me. Granted, no one has proven that Cecil Newton is rational either. 5. Kenny Rogers "job" is to help kids get placed in colleges. How do you make a living doing so without asking for money and taking a cut? Does he have a legit service where he sends videos to schools and networks with smaller colleges while charging the kid and their family money for the service? I haven't heard anything to that effect. 6. Has anyone considered that Kenny Rogers could have been out for himself and sought out Cecil Newton? Could Rogers have told Newton "I can get you money"? Could he have said "It doesn't have to be free this time, I have the sources to get you paid"? If this is the case and Newton agreed that does not make him right, it just shifts some of the responsibility in the situation and contradicts the coordinated story from the three Miss State parties in this. 7. IF Rogers told Newton he could get him money and Newton indicated he would be open to it if he could do so would that still be considered solicitation since it did not originate with Newton? 8. Why did Miss State continue to recruit him? Would you not want to distance yourself from that? 9. When Miss State turned this in to the SEC office, they did not divulge all of the information. Why did they hold some back if this was such a big deal? 10. How did Cam get to Blinn JC? Who pushed him to that school and why? Apparently there are assistant coaching connections between Dan Mullen and Dennis Francione, whose son is the Blinn JC Head Coach. Does that mean anything in itself? No But was there anything else to it? Maybe, might be a stretch, but it crossed my mind. 11. Am I the only one that thinks it is strange that the only people talking about all of this are from Miss. State? Oklahoma recruited him and reported nothing strange about his recruitment. Auburn was alerted by the SEC about this, checked it out and felt okay recruiting him. Does that mean they paid for him or that no discussions about money existed? Cam coming out of Blinn was not the "superstar" recruit he was out of HS. It's been reported that Gene Chizik originally didn't want him and was prepared to go into the season with the QB's he had. Supposedly an assistant coach talked him into looking at and ultimately signing the kid. If that is true, would it not make it less likely that Auburn would get into the middle of something scandolous if it were there? 12. Is there any proof or indication that Cam Newton knew anything about it other than one anonymous Miss State assistant claiming Cam told him he wanted to go to Miss State but the money was too good elsewhere? Is Cam really that stupid? Possibly, but he had been through the recruiting process before so its not likely he would have slipped up and said something he shouldn't have? All will eventually come out. Personally, I'd love it if none of this were true. I'd love for it to be discovered that Kenny Rogers was the instigator in all of this and that somehow info got out and they had to turn it on Newton and away from Miss State. I'm not holding my breath for that scenario however. But before I hang Cam Newton, I think its fair to think about the above situations. If there are legitimate answers that would likely lead us to a conclusion, would it not? Sorry for the length.