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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 02:55 AM) I mean a consistent WR who can give you 6-7 catches a game e.g a Bernard Berrian Don't think Hester can do that. Mark Bradley is probably the best bet at this point. Otherwise, I expect a WR chosen on day 1 in the draft.

QUOTE(lord chas @ Mar 5, 2008 -> 01:38 AM) and what did those guys do when they moved on to other teams? they all played their prime years with Favre. I'm just pointing out that Favre "not having any help" is a myth.

Great Move. We basically Get back Moose for probably 1/ 2 the price

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 08:10 PM) Like I said, we'll have to see their entire careers before we can make an accurate assessment. For those two having better seasons in each's 5 respective seasons, their career totals are very close. And something tells me that Manning's and Brady's career averages will decline as they age. it will take a hell of a decline to pass favre in Ints.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 07:29 PM) Let's see how those averages for Manning and Brady change as they play longer (especially if they play as long as Favre did). Favre would still trail if you compare the 5 best seasons of each QB.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 03:40 PM) Lol to all you people who say Favre is worse than Manning or Brady. Lol. Not a chance. Not a chance. Favre played in a completely different era in the 90's. Your boy Manning got the entire passing system changed because he whined and complained. Playing quarterback in the 90's was a lot harder than it has ever been in the past 7 years. why don't you back up your opinion? here are some sites that may help http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ http://www.nfl.com

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 01:37 PM) No offense to you guys, but the NFC North looks like it's going to suck next year. NFC north may suck in 2009, but I would bet that the worst divisions will be the AFC West and NFC West.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) Its not about more. Its about the most. He has the most. Number 1. forget it. this is pointless.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 12:59 PM) The starting QB's in the NFC North next year, as things currently stand are Aaron Rogers Rex Grossman Tavaris Jackson John Kitna. Id say the Vikings would be the favorites at this point. A lot can change, NFL Draft, free agency, trades, favre can change his mind again ect.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) If you want to go by the stats. Than Favre is the best QB ever. He has the most wins, the most td's, the most completions. Everything, he has the most everything. Oh and he won three MVP's. So I guess he is the best. I guess with that Argument, Brian Griese is a better Qb than Ben Roethlisberger ,Carson Palmer and Tony Romo. Career TDs Griese 114 Palmer 104 Roethlisberger 84 Romo 55 It's only a matter of time before Manning and Brady surpass Favre in every category but Ints.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) I don't know. Let me say I think trying to figure out who's the best QB or anyone position is dumb. It's a winless argument. All I know is I watched almost every game Brett Favre played and he was one hell of a QB and he was fun as hell to watch. That's how I judge him. Not his QB int rate per year. I'm going by what the NFL uses to Judge Pro Bowlers, MVPs and Hall of Famers. We are not arguing who is the best 'Grinder', that is a winless arguement. If you won't go by statistical Categories and Wins, then I could argue the Rex Grossman is a better qb than Favre, now couldn't I ?

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 12:39 PM) Stats aren't everything. To say someone is the best QB of their time by comparing int rates per year is looking at thing one sided. And what would you go by?

Add a Former World Leader ( Ex Italian President) to the Tin Foil hats association Francesco Cossiga http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Cossiga On 30 November 2007 he stated in an interview with the respected Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera his doubts about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York. The following is a rough translation of part of the interview: “ From circles around Palazzo Chigi, nerve centre of direction of Italian intelligence, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is testified from the fact that Osama bin Laden in it 'confessed' that Al Qaeda would have been the author of the attack of the 11 September to the Twin Towers in New York, while all of the democratic circles of America and of Europe, with in the forefront those of the Italian centre-left, now know well that the disastrous attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan. For this, no word of solidarity arrived to Silvio Berlusconi, who has been the author of the brilliant falsification, neither from the Quirinale, nor from Palazzo Chigi, nor from representatives of the centre-left!

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 12:25 PM) So you can say for fact that every int ever thrown by Brett Favre was his fault? Silly Argument. But, I'll go for the Bait. Let's say 2 Ints per year are not his fault. But, then you can make the same arguement for Manning and Brady. Avg Ints Per year Brady 12.2 Manning 15.3 Favre 18 (adjusted Avg Ints Per Year) Avg Ints Per year Brady 10.2 Manning 13.3 Favre 16 I really don't know what point you are trying to make. Enlighten me, please!

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) As a football fan, I'm going to miss him. As a Bears fan, I say, good riddance. And as for the argument of best ever...did you also look at who's around them? Someone name the best RB and WR Favre has had. Driver? Freeman? Favre did more with less than any of those other QBs. I'm not saying he's the best of all time, but he's definitely in the top 10. (only counting Years played with Favre) Green Bay Rbs Ahman Green 4x Pro Bowl selection (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004) 2x All-Pro selection (2001, 2003) Dorsey Levans 1x Pro Bowl selection (1997) 1x All-Pro selection (1997) Green Bay Wrs Sterling Sharpe 3x Pro Bowl selection (1992, 1993, 1994) 3x All-Pro selection (1992, 1993, 1994) Donald Driver 3x Pro Bowl selection (2002, 2006, 2007) All-Pro selection (2006) Antonio Freeman * 1x Pro Bowl selection (1998) * 1x All-Pro selection (1998) Javon Walker 1x Pro Bowl selection (2004) Gb TE's Bubba Franks 3x Pro Bowl selection (2001, 2002, 2003) Mark Chumura 3x Pro Bowl selection (1995, 1997, 1998) 2x All-Pro selection (1995, 1998)

QUOTE(daa84 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 11:58 AM) now show INTs per year too Avg Ints Per year Brady 12.2 Manning 15.3 Favre 18

QUOTE(SoxPride56 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 11:45 AM) Why don't we look at wins and TD passes as well then? OK Manning avg TD Passes Per Year 30.6 Avg Wins Per Year 10.5 Brady avg TD Passes Per Year 28.1 Avg Wins Per Year 12.2 Favre avg TD Passes Per Year 27.6 Avg Wins Per Year 10.1

QUOTE(MHizzle85 @ Mar 4, 2008 -> 11:34 AM) Yea....sure. career qb ratings Manning 94.7 Brady 92.9 Favre 85.7

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 3, 2008 -> 01:27 PM) I just figured it deserved it's own thread. So there. If Favre Can Have his own Thread, So could Briggs.

Best Ever? Not Even the Best of his time. Manning, Brady > Favre

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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 5, 2008 -> 12:12 PM) Ron Paul became useless to me about the time he started asking for all this money and never moved from 5%. Goodbye, and good riddance.

You are a true patriot Rowand's Rowdies. You are not alone.

I have to admit, I didn't know much about Ron Paul. I did some research after this thread and liked everything about him. I found a cool pic too