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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 8, 2007 -> 08:21 AM) Starts tonite, same bat time, same bat channel. I dont know how many of you are fans, but I figured I would start a thread. /steps back and waits for the haters to declare how much the show sucks. i dont know how anyone could hate the show. Sunday nights are back y'all!!!! Now I guess I can stop getting hammered on sunday's..........

QUOTE(shoota @ Apr 8, 2007 -> 12:05 AM) Maybe Guillen will use BA in '07 like he used G-Load in '06. He has no reason to take Erstad out at this point, hes on fire.

Wooooo, Ham Day!!!!!

Danks is going to throw strikes tomorrow. The only problem is that Minny is a team that hacks away, and he may get torn up.

Maggs, hot on the game threads. Tomorrow is your true test my friend.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Apr 7, 2007 -> 07:33 PM) So he was good against the White Sox. That also means he had a 5+ ERA against the rest of the league that year. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not see that Vazquez. He was actually really good in the 1st half that season and bombed in the 2nd half. He was 10-5 with a 3.57 pre ASB.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 09:00 PM) Phillips is just filler, although some project him as a better Josh Stewart.

No, but I hope shoota is done making horrible threads.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:47 PM) Uh, you do realize Self inherited the most talented team in their history as a first year head coach. That is until bruce weber walked into a layup.

QUOTE(HeGone33 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 03:15 PM) Another good thing is not missin any Tyrus Thomas highlights due to flipping between games. GREAT point

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 02:28 PM) Elijah Dukes will never be a member of the White Sox organization. I wish he was, the guy is going to be a freakin stud.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 12:09 PM) Kruger made us awesome, not Self. Self did a good job maintaining it though. Self's talent made them elite.

Ok OK, please dont go down the path of comparing Rocco to one of the best ever, please. just cut that convo off and start again.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 5, 2007 -> 08:00 PM) They warn you about these things when you get to around 18000.

Konerko wasnt much when we traded for him, in fact he was a top spect who was basically thought to have been somewhat of a bust. With Cin and LA in 1998 he did absolutely jack s***. Crede was ours, and he has developed into a pretty good impact 3B. At least a GGlover. Uribe was a project when brought in, and still is.

If Fields improves even more this year and continues (from what I saw) playing good defense at 3B, I have no issues with dealing Crede for MI help and possibly a lead off hitter candidate. Problem is, I see the whitesox org thinking a few strange things: 1. They are playing Sweeney in CF for AAA, this makes me think thats where they want him 2. Someone still thinks Jerry Owens may be our lead off hitter of the future 3. If Sweeney is being groomed for CF, BA must be out with Owens playing LF and whoever in RF.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 10:22 AM) He's better than Rogo, but he sure isn't a future three hitter. BTW, don't forget, guys are probably on the DL on that roster. Probably Lubs, for one. I see him as a #2 guy myself.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:42 AM) I think Sweeney'll have a better career than Fields right from the beginning. Fields swing is long. I think they will end up being totally different players. I think both will be very successful however.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:42 AM) I really see us acquiring a leadoff hitter at 2B/SS in the next couple of years, most likely at 2B. I know this is going to sound like a broken record. But I really wouldnt mind seriously going after Ichiro for RF and lead off. He is getting older and losing some of his hitting and running, but I really would enjoy that OF.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:39 AM) Um....that probably would not happen for another couple of years, and you can't honestly expect the entire team to stay intact. We've gone at least a year without a leadoff hitter already as well. I'd rather get rid of a couple of those larger contracts and buy ourselves a good FA leadoff hitter. Im ok with injecting Fields and maybe Sweeney if we can make a larger splash on the FA market.

so they skip Javy i hope? I want to see Danks so bad. Also this is an absolute godsend for our bullpen to have an off day.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:28 AM) God, I still wish the Sox can resign Crede, move Fields to LF, have Anderson in CF and Sweeney in RF in a number of years. That'd be best case. Who would lead off? We would need to shop for a middle infielder who could get on base at that point, because our OF would be a little power, some good contact, but not much for getting on base. QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:33 AM) Erick Aybar. its not like going to Jewel and picking up what you want. How the hell would we get a talent like Aybar?

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2007 -> 11:18 AM) I think some people love him just because he's Italian and his name reminds them of DiMaggio. They would want Anderson for the same reason half the Sox fans want Anderson to start in CF, with Erstad in LF. Do you really think KW would give up Gio AND Broadway for Baldelli? (I'm not even sure he would trade those two for Crawford). Where would he play in the White Sox OF? Is he really that much better than Erstad or Anderson, except for stretches of one or two seasons? You put Baldelli in there as the starter and bench Pods (with Erstad in LF), you're not getting any improvement at the leadoff position. He would definitely be a better defender, but he would have to prove he's healthy first. His lifetime OBP is .329. Pods is at .342. Sorry man. I understand that you are trying to make some sort of a point here, but I couldnt hold off much longer. They dont want Anderson, they have a clearly superior talent and player already in CF, his name is Elijah Dukes and will be 10x the player BA will ever be. Secondly, I would easily make that move for Crawford. Broadway will MAYBE be a 5th starter someday, Gio is a talent but an injury risk, Crawford is a rare talent and would easily payoff. Stats are stats. But you need to look at them a little better than you have been. Rocco's OBP as a lead off hitter is .366. He hasnt spent that much time (44games) in that slot, but has proven to be very effective when healthy. PODS is clearly on the decline and will not produce at that level, especially in the range of his career number when he was actually a speedy leadoff hitter who could get on base.

How does it feel to be plan C?

Baseball tonight, after the yankees highlights, Peter Gammons calls Tori Hunter one of the greatest players in the game.