chitownsportsfan

Same energy.

Just leave a giant steaming turd.

Exactly. It's a fucking cartel with a guaranteed profit. It's one of the single best investments a billionaire can make. GTFO with this crying poor shit.

My boycott won't make a bit of difference and I DGAF. It's personal with me now and baseball. They fucked me as a kid in 97 and now they are fucking me again. Fuck them.

Yes, I made that point weeks ago. Don't b**** and moan that you aren't getting a dividend from a high growth asset that has gone up in price 1000% as you've been sitting on it.

I'm about done with this fucking sport. I will not spend a fucking dime on anything. I will pirate every single game for the rest of my life and I will never pay to go to a single game. Fuck it. I've defended baseball and MLB to so many people over my life and I'm sick of it, fuck them. If MLB misses the season there's a good chance in 10 years it's relegated to NHL status in NA.

Look I'm not gonna try and look at this as some Marxist critique of Capitalism based on labor theory of value but he has a point. The fact is that it's the players that generate the value of professional baseball as much as the laundry run by the owners. That's just an objective fact. It's why when replacement players were finally ready to go and nobody GAF the dispute got resolved 20 years ago. Sure the White Sox as an institution owe something to the brave (lol) ownership of JR but they also owe it to the players that have dedicated their entire life to the sport and play it at a level high enough to generate the fan's money. If this doesn't get resolved quickly enough both sides stand to lose. What's the term, phyricc victory or some shit?

It takes two to tango and MLB never had any intention of dancing. Why would you attempt to do business with someone that despises you and in response to your offer came back at 75% and said take it or leave it? You wouldn't.

The MLBPA must really love the owners going out to the press and accusing them (dishonestly) of bad faith. I'm sure that really helps when they sit down.

Sure, but this affects the players' day to day lives. This doesn't affect a single owners' cash flow. Hell some of them probably lost more in their investment funds this year than a strike will cost them.

owners don't really care about revenue they can write it off or whatever, they care about franchise value and franchise value will skyrocket once they break the union.

I respect your fandom but you're a frog in the pot right now. They done boiled it slowly on you and you're ready to just bake in it.

Green font!

Yea there's real urgency that's why the owners are making sure guys have access to the team facilities because you wouldn't want to delay things any longer. Luckily once a deal is made the players will already have been swinging and throwing and will be ready to start playing warmup games. Right.

Hey we are within 50-75% on some core economic issues!

I don't get it. It's like you just compared a rock to a seagull and dropped the mic.

Why? Because it's "start losing revenue time"? How about this: if the owners were worried about losing some game revenue, why didn't they start negotiating in earnest until games were actually in danger of being cancelled? Hint: because they aren't worried about losing games.

Not really sure why some people are super optimistic all of sudden. Seeing the same tenor over at some other general MLB discussion areas online. I think it's cope frankly. Yea they are talking, no this doesn't mean the season is going to start anytime soon.

Nice, go fuck yourselves MLB.

You're kidding right? Spring training and opening day are arguably the most enjoyable part of the entire season.

No sooner thanMarch 5th to start spring training, LMAO! Can someone hire me to write these PR releases? Otherwise the only fecal matter I get to spew on a daily basis gets flushed right down.

Play 162 games and your reward for winning 95 is basically the same as 83 or so in any sort of playoff expansion. So dumb. I am disgusted by everything about MLB.

There's no reason for optimism. The owners are probably thinking this is there chance to break the union once and for all. It's a risk they don't mind taking.

We will be lucky to play 60 games.

They aren't in the union so the owners cynically expect the union to concede on shit like this in order to get a few more pennies into the union. Of course the owners are being short sighted and blinded by greed, but no matter they just want to see more black on the books in the next few years. Doesn't matter if the quality of play goes down or whatever they figure (perhaps rightly) that the slack will be picked up by someone else, maybe private academies, maybe expanding Juco budgets, maybe for profit academies expanding in LA and Pacific Rim. But fuck them. Fuck the owners. This business will not end well for anybody -- including them. It's going to get out of control and a season will likely be lost one way or another -- a partial season isn't a real season and we all know that.