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QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) Such as having him on his on his own surveillance camera waking around the outside of his house with a gun after the murder. "How did the cleaning service miss that?"

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) If they make the trade, it'd have to be Deng + this year's first + maybe even the Charlotte pick. Remember, the Trail Blazers turned down the #1 pick for Aldridge. They you can amnesty Boozer and use that money on a wing like Pierce or retain Bellinelli/Robinson. Sounds great, but I don't see it happening. Would not come anywhere close to giving up the Charlotte pick for Aldrige unless the Bulls were clearing a ton of cap space.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 02:47 PM) http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2013062...orts/706259711/ Aldridge wants out of Portland and wants in on the Bulls. I don't see how we can pull it off. We'd have to trade Deng + Boozer. The thing is, why would Portland want Deng and maybe a 20 in this year's pick for Aldridge if they're rebuilding. You'd think they'd rather get a much higher pick and a good young player that isn't expiring. I really like Aldridge, but is he THAT big of an upgrade over Boozer? I don't like Boozer much, but let's be realistic here. Booz was putting up .550 TS% and plays a similar type of game to Aldridge before this year. The only reason we hated Boozer was for his defense and his playoff disappearances. The problem is that Aldridge isn't much more efficient than Boozer on offense, probably won't play much better defense, and doesn't have a great playoff resume himself. He is 4 years younger, so there's that. But I don't know if I'd empty the bank for Aldridge with Mirotic on the way. The bolded makes no sense. Deng + Boozer = nearly $30 million next year, Aldridge = $13 million. Deng or Boozer straight up would match the salaries.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) I don't mind WAR as a stat and generally the numbers are similar whether it's fangraphs or baseball reference, but I absolutely hate dWAR. In '09 Dunn had a dWAR of -5.2. There is no chance in hell that a major leaguer, no matter how bad they are on defense, is costing their team 5 wins a season. Have you seen the White Sox this year?

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) Yeah, Papelbon is how much better than Reed on paper? And how much more expensive? Reed has 1.2 fWAR this season, Papelbon has 0.2. Papelbon is paid $13 million a year this year and for the next 2 years, Reed is paid $600k. Therefore, Papelbon is -1 wins better than Reed this year and $12.4 million a year more expensive.

QUOTE (kevo880 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 01:13 PM) I don't have time to look it up right now since I am at work, but hasn't Keenyn Walker been putting it together lately after a terrible start to the season. I know in yesterday's game he was 0-3 but had 3 walks and scored 3 runs and had a SB or 2. Hitting .257 with a .396 OBP in June, but carried by the numbers for the start of the month; only hitting .179 over the last 10 games (.347 OBP in that stretch though).

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 01:04 PM) Then he gets Papelbon and pays money to give up less talent. They aren't trading Castellanos for Reed. It's a stupid decision and there are better options, even if they are going to be reckless as you assume. Castellanos for Reed wouldn't even hold up in an ESPN discussion, there's just no argument for it. Then he can be happy paying Papelbon $13 million a year for the next 2 years and trying to figure out how to have his option year not kick in. At some point they will care about how much money they are losing and that will be good for us. Miguel Cabrera's contract comes up for renewal right in the middle of that.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 01:10 PM) He is showing signs of life hitting .291 in the last month, the power hasn't been there with it yet, but I would not be surprised if he started rolling in July. 1 month of rolling would probably be enough to get a team like the Yankees to take on the $4 million or so that remains on his deal for August/September. Nothing more, but $4 million next year buys us a solid relief pitcher.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:34 AM) You trade him to get position players back that can contribute everyday for nine innings. A closer really has no value to a last place team. What I am saying, is that you don't get handed a winning lottery ticket, and then say, throw in one more lottery ticket then we have deal. You take your win and move on. Are you predicting that the White Sox will be a last place team for the next 4 seasons? If not, this doesn't stand. The Sox are holding the winning lottery ticket right now, a player who is going to contribute to their team a lot for the next 4 years if he's not moved. If they want to move him, it better be for lottery tickets that have a really good chance of paying off better than the winning ticket they already have.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:32 AM) I'm sure this "blown save" and the one where he had the 5 run lead will be used to drive his trade value down by opposing GM's. Not unlike Crain's last game against KC, even though it wasn't 100% his fault, he should have gotten out of the inning with lead at least. Man you really think opposing GM's are idiots.

Prop 8 dies on standing. No nationwide precedent set except for "once this right is granted no one will have standing to prove it damaged them".

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:28 AM) And Reed is worth a lot less than most people realize. Closers do not have a track record of bringing back prospects on the level Castellanos. You can ask for more but you wont get it cause someone else will make that deal. If you don't get what you ask for there's no reason to trade him and we can stop having this conversation.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:27 AM) Yeah, but Kennedy's majority opinion referenced the "states' rights to define marriage" at least a dozen times, so don't get your hopes up on the Prop 8 ruling. That suggests you won't get a ruling that is wide-ranging but Prop 8 could still die on standing issues or on "taking away rights" issues. I never really expected them to legalize it nationwide in the Prop 8 case.

Patriots have released Hernandez.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) I can think of one possibility off of the top of my head. Come on man, actually say it. Do you mean the Tigers? Please stop toying with me.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:08 AM) Well, a 3rd qb. The backup's backup. How often does a 3rd qb play in a year? For a team like the Patriots not often...but isn't there the rule where you can stash a 3rd QB as listed on the practice squad and then still use him in a game if the #1/#2 guys both get hurt?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) I actually think athletic players tend to age well. I don't classify Granderson as a 40 homer guy, even though he did it twice recently, but he is a 25-30 homer guy with gap to gap power. The fear is that his bat speed will further slow down, which will further reduce his contact rate. More than anything else, that's my biggest fear regarding Curtis Granderson. Do you think that spending part of his time as a DH would help with that? That's my hope with him, the Sox could use a DH after 2014 and hopefully 2015 is when we start seeing the first of the OF's in the minors (Trayce) arriving.

Well, that's one form of legalized discrimination dead.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:55 AM) Its a ridiculous idea Not nearly as dumb as signing him and thinking he's a QB.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:52 AM) It really depends who is left on the roster at the end of the year. If you move two starters along with Rios, Ramirez, and Beckham, there are additional holes to fill and the offense will take a step back. If the Sox do sell like that, I think you will see them sign some guys to 1 year deals on the cheap so that they can re-build value and the Sox can have a semi competitive team. Like perhaps Corey Hart and Ryan Madson if they have to sit out the year, allow them to build value and trade them at the deadline next year. They can fill some holes, but are they going to fill enough to catch the Tigers, Rangers, Yankees, Orioles, Rays, Blue Jays, Red Sox, and probably the Angels once they get things figured out? The danger here is being in no mans land, just good enough to be competitive but not good enough to make the playoffs. If you are going to be bad, be bad. Accumulate talent in the draft and through international free agency and bank money to trade for established players. Free agency has never been real kind to the Sox, partially because the team has refused to work with the agent that represents a good percentage of baseballs elite players. If the Sox find deals of the sort that make it worth it for them to move Rios, Ramirez, and Beckham, as well as 2 starting pitchers, then yes, it will be very unlikely for them to compete next year...but at the same time, they ought to come out of those deals absolutely loaded. There's no reason for them to move Rios and "look out I'm coming for the ball" unless they get really good offers for them, and Ramirez i'd say they only barely have a good reason to move. If they move those guys it makes competing next year much more difficult, but they ought to come out of those deals with an absolutely stocked minor league system. If that system isn't ready to compete next year, i can live with that, play the kids for next year and then have even more money to spend in 2015 when Dunn comes off the books.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:39 AM) If 2013 is dead, the last guy we are bringing in is Carlos Marmol. Why's that? Do you think a competitive team would actually give him a roster spot?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:36 AM) For 2 and a club option, I'll take Granderson, but does it have to be either/or? I'd take both at those deals. Depends on who we move this deadline

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:34 AM) We all joke about it, but in all actuality the Pats will try to bring in legit TE's. They might be able to toy with that idea at some point, but right now it's not going to happen. I still think it should have been their goal when they brought him in...just now they have to rush it.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:21 AM) I'm saying there's absolutely no harm in bringing him in on a minimum deal. The dude can still throw. If he can control it to any extent, he's damn near unhittable. He'll be at the point where he can basically decide where he wants to sign after he clears waivers right? Sure I'd give him an offer and send Omogrosso down to do it, no guarantee he'll want to pitch for us though.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2013 -> 09:29 AM) So if you had to choose between Curtis Granderson for more money per year but 2 years and a club option for 2016 (w/ buyout) or Kendrys Morales for 3 guaranteed years at the same total amount as Granderson, which would you choose? This is a really good question for once and I compliment you on asking it. I lean Granderson but this is really provocative.