Balta1701

A lead!

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) I think it's only a matter of time before Phegley is called up. Gimenez serves zero purpose to this team. Time for the Sox to see what they have there. Give that until June. If nothing else, Giminez might have some other team that would claim his services if he was available; teams always need warm bodies to fill in when catchers get injured

QUOTE (Capn12 @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:14 PM) I do think the starting pitching has been overall, better. But, look how many 5 inning....6 inning performances we're getting. The bullpen is 3-4 guys deep into every ball game. That isn't going to be feasible, come August or September. And ANY team that thinks Keppinger is an everyday starter is already possessing a failure mentality. We have visible holes at catcher, second (for now), third unless Gillaspie is a miracle worker, left field, and the entire bench....possibly even at DH due to the abomination of a signing in 2010. We're getting so many 5-6 inning performances right now because we are soon going to be running out our 8th starter and because we're developing a pair of young left handers.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:12 PM) So balta my man, what do you think they should do? I don't mean that sarcastically. Get healthy and start taking bats to people's heads first and foremost. I'm not sure if that is contradictory or not. If this team keeps playing this way, yes, fine, Peavy is a moveable piece come July. If Dunn keeps hitting the way he has the last 2 weeks, maybe you can get lucky and drop him on waivers Otherwise, play the guys you have the rest of the way. You guys want to develop this cheap young talent, but then guys like Flowers, Viciedo, and Beckham struggle out of the gates like most players do (just ask the Royals), and then you declare the position open and unfilled.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:11 PM) Mostly relievers. There's Santiago, but Quintana was "developed" by the Yankees. Santos came from the D-Backs and was a SS. Axelrod was a 30th round pick of the Padres. We can/should take credit for Gio, Hudson, Clayton Richard, etc. But we mismanaged those assets in the case of Gio/Hudson. If you believe that Hahn can continue to have the same luck finding prospects from other organizations and not end up with more Zach Stewarts and Nestor Molinas instead. Roy Halladay is DONE. Put a fork in him. ERA well above 6 now. When you reach the point of not giving the White Sox credit for developing Axelrod and Quintana into useful pieces, you've gone overboard.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) Yes, but where are these resources going to come next year to fill the 1B, CF, 2B, C spots? It seems inevitable the attendance is going to be horrible this year unless a drastic turnaround takes place. Right now we're at $120 million+ this season, and $90 million committed next year if the options on Thornton and Lindstrom aren't picked up. Probably $85 million if Beckham isn't picked up. If Peavy is dealt (and that's a reasonable move if this team can't get healthy and find where it stuck its collective heads) then the Sox would be on the verge of having $70 million on the books next year.

QUOTE (Capn12 @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) You do realize, that this team is exactly 29 games over .500 since the 2005 WS, coming into 2013? It isn't like this team is a powerhouse. We have marginal players playing at the highest level, no minor league system to speak of at all, and a floundering, bad decision making manager at the head. On the marginal players part...most teams would have marginal players playing at the highest level when they have to go 32 deep. Look at our rotation for crying out loud, we're getting regularly solid performances out of pitchers #6 and #7 and it's still not enough. And for having no minor league system to speak of in your words, we're getting some serious performances out of the guys we're using, particularly pitchers again. I will, however, make no defense of the manager and consider your statement 100% accurate.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 04:01 PM) Not much different? Come on, they added 3 starting pitchers to a team that everyone used to say "their offense is really good, if only they could add starting pitching". They did it, and they're a much more balanced team now. So, if a team needing offense adds 2 or 3 offensive parts when they already have a solid pitching staff, they can become competitive pretty quickly?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:58 PM) Question is, what has to happen for Sox to even contend the next few years with the likes of Detroit and KC? Like it or not, there's just a huge talent gap from Detroit-KC-White Sox. The problem is, #1 on that list is "stop being the stupidest team in baseball" and #2 on that list is "get a couple of injured people back".

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:56 PM) And how is that? Trading from one of the three worst farm systems in all of baseball? Hell, we already have a borderline elite pitching staff right now. It might very well be "elite" if people could catch the ball.

QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:56 PM) The Royals are a nice case study too since they are chock full of perennial all-stars that they've acquired due to high draft picks Up for a decade of losing?

QUOTE (Capn12 @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) Not sure how folks can argue that this team is due for a mass overhaul, and that means cutting payroll, and trading what is worth something, to restock the minors. Play kids, and go from there. Don't even start talking about the stupid attendance crap, either. Not sure how people can pretend this isn't a terrific, franchise threatening failure.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:54 PM) For those saying there's no benefit in being bad, do you really think attendance would be that different if the Sox lose 90 games compared to 100? Hell, Reinsdorf gets paid for 1.5 million in attendance no matter what. A 60 win team? Yes.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:52 PM) Does it matter now? This is the worst roster we've seen in decades. We all knew the rebuilding was coming. Just have to hope Peavy gets healthy so we can deal him. Yes, because you're not going to be happy with the results of severe payroll cuts. You're just not. No one here is going to be. This kind of failure followed by a dismantling can put us into the same boat the Royals have spent the last 2 decades in, I'm not joking. You guys think it's this stellar idea, it might well leave people talking about contracting the team.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:50 PM) Sadly, it really seems it's for the best. You guys won't be saying that when they have to cut the payroll by 20% a year the next 2 years.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:49 PM) Had to step away, what happened? Keppinger misplayed a shorthop. Should have been an easy double play, bounced off his glove, run scores, no out recorded. This inning should be over.

Ok, there's the mistake.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:44 PM) they signed Adam Dunn Just go away. Seriously, what did I actually miss?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 5, 2013 -> 03:42 PM) White Sox baseball 1 mistake is all it takes. What mistake did I miss? Flipped over to the basketball game.

Since April 20th, Rios is hitting .130 with a .435 OPS.

LOL that was a very loud sigh by Hawk.

very leadoff hitter esque at bat here

Cmon ADA

Quintana has now been better than very good.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 5, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) Dunn fouls off a hanger, pops up a FB. He's so, so freaking bad. Hammered the ball in his first at bat, has an OPS > 1.000 over his last 10 games.