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Time to turn this game off. Bulls didn't come to play today

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 05:34 PM) Regarding what that scout said, if the Sox are right about Sale and Molina being top-of the-rotation starters and Viciedo being an impact bat the heavy lifting of the rebuilding might just be over.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) According to Forbes, the Bulls average a $55 million profit each of the past 5 years. So the last 5 years, they have made $275 million in profit. If they are really worried about the luxury tax, that is pretty sad. http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/201...able-nba-teams/ This team is always going to worry about the luxury tax, and especially with the new CBA. They've made no bones about it. If they go $100 over the luxury tax level this season, it probably costs them $5 million this year and might well cost them more than that next year.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 04:59 PM) This may sound like sacrilege but if we need roster room, cut Scalabrine. I don't the point in keeping White Mamba when he's basically at the end of the bench, both Lucas and James can be serviceable. The bulls don't need roster room, they have the spots. The actual issue is that they're very, very close to the luxury tax threshold. And the way the new cba works...hitting it htis year would make it much more painful to hit it in future seasons if we had to.

Lucas and James are rocking.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 04:41 PM) thibs went with a lineup that had both james and lucas on the court at the same time along with jimmy butler, korver and taj...talk about small I guess hes never afraid to send a message to the starters Right after it became like 6-2, you could hear Boozer saying "Come on Jo let's wake up". That, um, bothered me.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 02:22 PM) I agree that Viciedo developing into a legitimate middle of the order bat would be more beneficial, but let's not forget that Viciedo turns 23 next month and has limited major league at-bats. As high as am on him, I realize he's going to have some struggles next year. Take a look at his numbers against RHP last season for us and tell me you honestly think he's ready to play every single day. If you play him against all lefties and every other right-handed starter (based on matchups), I think you can minimize his struggles and maximize his production. Also, I'm simply referring to start the season. If he proves he can hit RHP well, then keep giving him more and more at-bats until he basically plays everday. I don't think there's anything with being somewhat cautious with a young player and putting him in situations that will increase his chance of succeeding. If he's going to struggle...he's going to struggle. He's not going to stop struggling while sitting on the bench. Put him in there. Play him. What you just wrote is a path to 400-450 plate appearances. If he's healthy, he needs 600. If he's going to play 2 games out of every 3, just put him back in Charlotte.

QUOTE (forrestg @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 02:23 PM) I think if Rios rides the hard pine. He will become better at sitting. He might even make a friend or two. Honestly...if he's not performing, I don't think anyone's going to be really mad if Rios rides the pine. I will be furious if a healthy Viciedo is regularly sitting because the manager insists on a platoon/insists the guy behind him needs his at bats. That's what happened to Morel last year, and it just stinks.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 02:31 PM) If you think Sale is one of the young guys who will develop slowly I don't think the SP is good enough by itself to carry them to 78 wins. His slow development would leave a large hole in that rotation. In my view he is the wildcard on next year's team. If he performs as is hoped, the rotation is solid and I think they will hit enough to compete in the central. I think Sale will give a really solid 100-120 innings and then be incredibly unreliable in the 2nd half when they try to push him to 150 innings. But that's still enough to push to the mid 70's in wins.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 04:31 PM) Thanks. I hope the little fella doesn't start having an injury plagued career. There's only so much a body can take when you're running into trees. I think a big part of it right now is how compressed this season is. In a normal year he might have missed 3 games so far, instead this is 5, and when something small happens there's another game before there's any time to get treatment.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 04:26 PM) Flat tire. LOL him circling where he got stuck on the Edens, saying there was no help...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 04:28 PM) Rose got back spasms about 2 weeks ago, he tried to play through it against the hornets and made it worse, so they have been sitting him ever since Based on their statements, if this was a playoff game he could probably go, but why push it? A midseason loss to the Nets doesn't hurt much. Probably also gives him time to help that turf toe.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 02:18 PM) If Dunn and Rios disappoint AND the young guys develop slowly 78 wins is a stretch. The starting pitching should carry them that far unless Danks gets hurt.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) You have them pegged at 90 losses, right? Ill go with 78-84 actually. 90 seems a bit much unless people get hurt. But I'm assuming dunn and rios disappoint, the young guys develop slowly, and the manager spends a while flailing. A .900 ops from Viciedo could change a lot of that. A .765 ops from Fukudome doesn't.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 01:19 PM) As of 2/14, the Bears are supposedly $46.834 mill under the cap. This includes approximately 8M in rollover savings from last years cap that can be applied in the CY. Citation?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 01:02 PM) I'm sorry, but the team's goal to start the season should be to win. It's not going to take very long to see if we're in store for another 2011-type season from Dunn, Rios, Beckham, Morel, Peavy, etc. If things go downhill quickly, then obviously guys like Viciedo and Flowers should start everyday regardless of matchups. Until we know which way this team is heading, the primary goal is to try to win. Fukudome should be an excellent #2 hitter against RHP for us. One way or the other, we'd be smart to get his bat in the lineup against RHP. That means Rios and/or Viciedo will have to sit sometimes. If you straight platoon Rios, you'll never be able to deal him. If you platoon Viciedo, you risk stunting his development. Clearly they both need to play against RHP and I think having play as equal amount makes the most sense to start the season. Let Robin play them based on matchups and hopefully their results actually improve. There's nothing more I want than to see Viciedo out in RF everyday, but I actually believe this team has a chance of being competitive and I want to know for certain before I don't take advantage of a useful player like Fukudome. See, even if Fukudome has a solid season for him, he's not going to turn this team into a contender. You know what might? Viciedo developing into a legit middle of the order hitter, the kind who other teams will fear. But we keep seeing our manager hide the kids from people to get the backup at bats, and Morel in particular said that really screwed with him last year. If Viciedo doesn't hammer the ball, then Fukudome putting up a .355 Obp won't make this team competitive. Play the kid.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 12:19 PM) I could see several teams willing to give up their #1 pick for him. It's not just a first round pick though, it's a first round pick and a full free agent contract.

Heres' their overnight apology.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 11:58 AM) OK, so Mr. 3000 is on TV right now (no, I'm not actually watching it). The plot is that a guy reaches hit #3000 and abruptly retires. An analyst finds out 9 years later that 3 of the hits didn't count for some reason, and he returns to get back to the magic number. He has the entire month of September to do it, and fails. Now I know it's a movie, and a poor one at that, but I find it very hard to believe a guy with enough talent to get 3000 hits in his career could return at the age of 47 and not get 3 hits in a month. The big issue would be how much they let their physical condition go during the couple years after retirement.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 12:02 PM) What word could this possibly be that you preemptively bleeped it out? Damn? That's hardly worth censoring It sounds angrier when I bleep it than when I write it.

The US Supreme Court has issued a stay of Montana's law. Based on the current court calendar, it is unlikely that the Supremes will hear the case before this year's election, and then they can rule it unconstitutional next year.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 11:08 AM) De Aza and Fukudome should be in the lineup everyday against RHP. I'd have Fukudome fill in for Viciedo and Rios equally, NO. Play the **** kid. Don't hide them, don't tell them they should be scared of the pitcher, don't tell them that they can't make it, don't tell them that they're not good enough. Sick to death of watching this team's manager convince every kid on the roster that they're not good enough and that there's nothing they can do because the guy behind him needs his at bats.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) THIS Athleticism IMO is overrated, give me elite skills and fundamentals with above average athleticism (Bird, Duncan, Magic) over elite athleticism and above average skills and funfamentals, MJ killed because he was elite in all 3, and to boot, had one of the highest competitive drives ever in sports and mentally he was an assassin. LBJ, one of the greatest physical specimens, has so far shown not to have the competitive drive nor the mental make up to devestate like MJ did...I think LBJ will win a title based on his physical gifts but no way do I see him racking 4, 5 titles. Like I've said before, gimme a Larry Bird over a Dwight Howard or really anybody in the league today. Is someone seriously arguing that 23 was weak on "Athleticism"? Seriously, the next time the 1991 championship series is on ESPN classic, just watch. Jordan's lightning. It's like watching Rose except taller and better.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 18, 2012 -> 10:43 AM) Good luck finding 5,000 people to pay an extra $5 on top of their expensive tickets just to watch practice, lol. The number would more likely be dozens/hundreds. The ballpark is usually pretty empty what, 45 minutes before a game?

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