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QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:37 PM) Who will be looking for shortstops this offseason? OC, in my mind, would be perfect in San Fran. I can certainly see him winding up with the Dodgers.

QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:34 PM) His listed 2008 salary is $10 million which means the Sox will have to offer at least $8 million. Screw the questionable metrics and draft picks (it's the Sox drafting, remember?) We gave up a consistent starting pitcher for this asshole. Well, here's reality with what we gave up...we had to trade Garland for something. Contreras was unmovable, Vazquez I dunno...Buehrle unmovable...and after that, Floyd was out of options, and then we had Garland and Danks. In other words, either we had Garland in the rotation and Danks in the minors or we traded Garland. If all we did was get someone who netted us an extra draft pick, getting Danks in to the rotation was worth that move.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:28 PM) $7.2M Your own payroll resource has him at $9 million this year. I didn't think the team could offer him a lower salary than the one he had this year?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 07:00 PM) It sure seems like Gavin comes through when the team needs him the most. Gotta love the 3.70 ERA from a starter who as of last year was nothing but a colossal bust. And the good news...he's still only 25, and he's really the equivalent of a 2nd year pitcher in experience. He could well get better from here.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 05:53 PM) He is half-assed, and an overrated defender, nothing near what I thought he was with the Red Sox and Angels. There were a couple of times when he was hot that I started warming up to him, but he is pretty lackluster overall. He's an above average SS, that's all though. I was expecting his bat to take a step back from where it was the last couple years, and he's sort of been exactly on his career numbers this year, so there's not much that's been surprising there. But he's had a real inability to handle the job on defense that we've all seen. He's capable of making some really good plays, but you just don't feel that confident with him having to do anything that rough right now. He's sort of in the same boat in my head as JoE5 is right now, I just don't like it when the ball is hit to them right now.

And a good game all around. Gavy steps up big time and gives the pen some extra rest.

Welcome back JoE5. We missed ya.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 05:43 PM) O's announcers basically saying Russell has no balls. I tend to agree. That's not really that unusual for people making their first stint with the big league team. He's here to develop in games like this and cover these sorts of innings.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:34 PM) is linebrink gonna come back? Maybe by 2010.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:29 PM) O's announcers said it looked like he was done for the night. Today's not the worst day to give Russell or Ramirez an inning.

QUOTE (RME JICO @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:25 PM) Will Floyd be in for the complete game? 98 pitches so far.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 06:07 PM) only a 6 page game thread? wow....no fathom? double wow Game thread isn't a big place to be when we're beating the O's 7-2 and everyone and I mean everyone seems to be doing their jobs. Big time of Gavin today to step up and give the pen a rest. Hope Ozzie leaves him in for the 8th.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 03:08 PM) You are under the false impression that such a campaign is a winning strategy for every election. Hey, but it will be interesting to see a bunch of crazy attacks on McCain, so go for it I suppose. I just think it would totally backfire. Then why hasn't it backfired for McCain? Who's the last national candidate that the Patton type strategy actually failed for?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 02:51 PM) I agree. They still have to sharpen their claws against McCain though. Bunch of reasons why I think Hillary should be the attack speech. First and foremost, it has to be done. The Repubs got a much bigger bounce with their Zell Miller led "John Kerry wants to arm our troops with spitballs" "I wish we lived in the era when we could challenge people to a duel" insanity than the Dems did with their attempt to show off kerry's military background in 2004. If it didn't work I wouldn't be saying it needed to be done. I think Hillary in particular should be the one doing it for a few more reasons. First and foremost...the thing that's going to bring those supporters of her candidacy considering voting for McCain back in to the fold is McCain. If you're for Hillary, you don't want McCain nominating the next supreme court justice, you don't want McCain's economic policies in place. Having her go after him for those makes that point. And finally, I don't know who else will be the one to do it. The other options are BO himself, Clinton, Biden, and Warner (the keynote). Warner isn't going to do it, we already know that. Biden might make sense, but especially on the abortion issue something tells me he wouldn't be as effective as Hillary. I can't quite put my finger on why because the secret service would arrest me if i tried to put my finger there. And I really don't see Obama himself going hard as the attack guy on Thursday before 70000.

So, in prep for tonight, I'd like to say that if Hillary's speech isn't the sharpest, harshest anti-McCain speech of the entire convention, it's a mistake.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 01:58 PM) They'll likely offer Crede arbitration. Fields isn't an option and the Sox wouldn't have a problem, imo, if Crede accepted a one year deal. I'd expect 3, possibly 4 (depending on what happens with Griffey). Barring another surgery for someone, there's not a player on the Sox who hits FA that we shouldn't offer Arb to. The only one we should have to even think about is Griffey, but if he's still type B at the end of the season, then I'd take him back on a 1 year deal or let him walk for a sandwich pick.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 09:59 AM) The short answer is timing - and spending. So...you're willing to argue that tax cuts increase revenue but that it's totally possible for that effect to be drowned out by much stronger effects. Then saying "The last 3 tax cuts all led to increased revenues" is simply meaningless because I can easily pull that exact same argument out of my hat. The government went deep in to debt with Bush's tax cuts because of wartime spending, and this is a classic method of economic stimulus. Coming out of a recession at the same time. So it's entirely possible to believe that Bush's tax cuts would have decreased revenue had the government not dove headfirst in to deficit spending and if they hadn't happened as we were leaving a recession.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 09:56 AM) When a politician makes their private life a part of their public campaign, it ceases to be their private life. A central part of their campaign WAS their marriage and her cancer. At that point in time, she becomes complicit in a lie, and a central one in his run for the White House. It'd be different if that hadn't have been a central theme for them. To me it would be akin to finding out Frank Thomas was a juicer, after all of those years of b****ing about other people doing it, and leading a campaign against it. Except the only ones at risk from Frank Thomas's guns were the opposing pitching staffs...

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 08:50 AM) Ultimately, it's her husband's fault. That doesn't excuse her willingness to cover it up to protect him while he campaigned for the job. She was willing to sacrifice the party and the whole election to protect her husband. It makes sense that the party is going to be unhappy about that.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 08:41 AM) Isn't it really up to her how she handles it once she finds out though? If she wants to stay silent, it's her marriage and her business. I'd like to agree...but the other side of the issue is...by helping her husband campaign, she made her business and her family's private matters public. I just keep coming back to the thought...let's say he won Iowa and turned that in to a juggernaut somehow (He was only a few votes behind there). Then you get to July, and suddenly the affair comes pouring out. If she believed one bit in all the things she supposedly supports...then by standing by and campaigning hard for her husband while he kept that secret, she'd basically be handing John McCain the White House. If she wanted to keep her family's private dealings private...then she shouldn't have let her husband run for public office.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 26, 2008 -> 08:27 AM) Why is it, then, that revenues to the government have gone up the last three times that taxes have been cut? Oh, now it would be more then it otherwise would have been? No. It would have stayed status quo because there would have been less income coming from below the highest levels. But here's the problem with your logic...if every one of the last 3 tax cuts drove increases in revenue, and it was solely those tax cuts responsible for the increase in revenue (and not, say, lucky timing)...then why didn't the Clinton era tax increases lead to decreases in revenue and larger deficits?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 04:06 PM) Alexei is still raw enough as well for the Sox to send him to winter ball, where I would assume he would getting work at SS. While it's not the ideal place to gain experience(game speed, field conditions) it couldn't hurt. After a full season here and hopefully another month in the playoffs too, I really doubt they'll send Alexei to winter ball, but hey, you never know. Remember he was a SS in Cuba full time I believe.

Richard getting a little wild here in the 2nd.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 25, 2008 -> 03:59 PM) That's a good point...how has Alexi looked at SS in previous games? He is most likely our SS next year? We haven't seen much of him there and IIRC he's been a little rough, but all season they've been talking him up as a better defensive SS than 2nd base or CF, and said that 2nd was his 3rd best position. So it'll depend on the offseason moves obviously (We need one more middle infielder unless we're starting Getz or hanging on to Uribe as a starter) but Alexei at SS seems more than 50% likely IMO for next year

11 pitches, 8 strikes, 3 outs for CK.