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ARGH

Leadoff Q single.

Todd Jones in for the 9th.

LOL, we're through the 8th inning, and there hasn't yet been a play exciting enough for them to include it on MLB.com's gameday video thing.

3 up, 3 down for the kitties in the 8th. MB at 102 pitches through 8.

Granderson comes in to CF, Thames taken out.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:35 AM) He may in fact be trade bait. But, after this season, he is a minor league free agent. I'd imagine, if he puts up good numbers in AAA, that he'll be looking for a major league deal somewhere. And unless the Sox clean house in the OF, which seems unlikely, that means Cook will be gone. Its too bad, because he looks to me like a guy who figured it out a little late but could be the real thing if given a chance. Well, let's think about the OF situation next year. Assume Ozuna and Uribe are gone, that creates a slot for Getz, and presumably we still need 1 more backup infielder. In the OF...well, the big elder 3 of Konerko, Thome, and Dye matter here. If one of them is moved, then presumably Anderson slides back in to the full time starting role, and then we're left with Owens and Cook as 2 obvious options for the backup OF role. If we were to only carry an 11 man pitching staff next year to start the season, that would create room for 2 backup IF's and 2 backup OF's.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:35 AM) Sort of a catch-22, because in a perfect world the businesses would take these initiatives on their own. My thinking is this though, if the companies are thinking ahead about their long-term viability, why WOULDN'T they? Because there's very little incentive for these companies to think about their long term viability in that way. Here's the way they look at the system. They control substantial oil reserves. If global oil production peaks and oil production drops by say, 5% over the next 5 years, then over that same time, the value of their oil holdings will probably double or more...if they can keep selling it. They are plenty viable even in the middle to long term as oil production declines, because the decline in oil production is going to continue forcing a skyrocketing of their profit ability. Here's a more detailed summary/case study. The only thing that would short-circuit this effect, where the value of their holdings continues to go up and forces their profits higher and higher is a genuine transition in the energy markets to some other source of energy or to an economy that rapidly is cutting its consumption of oil.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:33 AM) I have a lot less of a problem with this. I just have never really agreed with forcing people and companies to do things for moral reasons. Using that same kind of logic, I could make an arguement for compulsory military service. Does anyone really want to see that? I know I don't, and it is for the same consitutional reasons that we can't force it. IF we're going to wind up invading a couple more countries, then yes, I'd want to see it, because otherwise it'd be guaranteeing even worse military disasters than the Iraq occupation simply from a lack of manpower. Of course, I'm hoping we don't launch more silly wars for that reason. But if you're stuck in a position where it's a necessity...

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 10:33 AM) nice job again by Mark - you knew the kitties would score, they've been swinging the bats of late. Yeah, even with good pitching it's hard to totally shut a team out. Hell, we scored yesterday didn't we? Now we just have to have the bats do their job.

Yes!

Come on MB...

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 10:23 AM) Anyone in the US has the protection of the Constitution. It was ruled early this year or last year that Gitmo counts as US property, even though it is leased from Cuba. I think the appropriate response to this is that the U.S. government must follow the constitution, whether or not it is acting against citizens. If the constitution specifies that some power granted to the government only is allowed for citizens, then it is limited to that group. The constitution says that it is applicable to the government, and that judicial power/judicial review is applicable to the cases of anyone, including citizens of other countries. The Habeas Corpus clause says; There is nothing in the constitution that limits this clause specifically to citizens, and I'd say the constitution, by applying judicial power to citizens of other countries, probably does imply that HC implies to anyone who is under the jurisdiction of the U.S. government, unless the writ is officially suspended.

Frankly, without examining his hand and being a doctor, I have no idea if a day off, several days off, or anything of the sort is the correct move or the wrong move with Q.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:18 AM) Quentin's average has tumbled down. I didn't think he was in that much of a slump. Amazing the perception of players when the team is winning. Hawk said earlier he's dealing with a bruised hand.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:03 AM) I just cannot justify applying the constitution to non-US citizens. If an illegal immigrant is arrested in the U.S., do they have no protection under the U.S. constitution?

The Tax policy center (supposedly non-partisan but I really don't buy it, they're sort of half non partisan in that they're a joint venture of the center-left Brookings institution and the non-partisan Urban Institute) has an analysis up of what the 2 candidates tax plans, if enacted as proposed, would do to the incoming income of different economic groups of americans. The money graph:

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:04 AM) Do I actually have to give an intelligent, well-thought out respone with significant value to a person who actually thinks MSNBC is anywhere near un-baised? How in the world does putting MSNBC at 3 to 3.5 when 5 is defined as the middle qualify as calling MSNBC "Un-Biased"?

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:04 AM) was it Mulder or Hudson who MB faced a few times and the games were insanely quick? Aside from that one game in Seattle, the Mulder/Buehrle games were legendary for rapidity.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 11:02 AM) and the Sox offense was turning into legendary status as well. I was justhoping for a little more the last two days. Seems that Verlander and Rogers are making it look really easy. Justin Verlander can make it look pretty easy against a lot of teams. Rogers ugh...but I can't hold being beat by Verlander against a team.

Come on Toby Hall's pants...

Supposedly Hawk said a little bit ago that Q has been dealing with a bruised hand for the last few games.

Ok middle of the order, let's put something else on the board to make Mark's job a little easier.

Mark pitches around a 1st & 2nd 1 out/2nd and 3rd 2 out situation without giving up anything. Nicely done MB.

This sort of plays in somewhat with recent events. Did you know that the U.S. government produces a "Climate extremes index", calculated by the taking some average of the percentage area of the country that is seeing abnormally extreme events of either temperature, wind, or precipitation? So the more areas in extreme drought conditions the higher it goes, the more areas receiving huge and rapid doses of rain, the higher it goes, etc. Here's how it looks lately.