Greg Hibbard

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 16, 2006 -> 06:59 PM) 5 under and they are still last in their division and near the bottom of the AL. They are hitting .230 and have 6 runs in 5 innings. The Rays won't hit .230 all season. Big surprise. 2nd worst in the AL >>>>>> about 2/3rds of the NL. And they are miles above Kansas City. Tampa Bay has some major league talent, and we faced probably one of the 15 best starters in the league tonight. The way he's pitching, it was gonna be hard to put many runs up on the board. Big deal. We'll get em the next two nights. I still think Tampa could win 75 this year.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 16, 2006 -> 06:57 PM) And they are 8 games under .500, 2nd worst in the AL Whatever, 5 under and 8 under are not a whole lot different at this point in the season.

Guys, the Rays are NOT a joke this year, nor were they really much of a joke at the end of last year. Kazmir is most certainly the real deal, and they have some good young talent that goes through hitting streaks. I mean, they handed the Yankees their asses all season, and routinely give them problems. They are 5 under hitting .230 as a club. Imagine if they had not been slumping so badly.

QUOTE(alexgtp @ May 16, 2006 -> 06:53 PM) why is logan still here? because Ozzieball demands that we have one horrible left hander at all times

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ May 16, 2006 -> 06:26 PM) Pic please? what, you've never seen Hitchcock's "Psycho"?

surely it's been said before, but damn McCarthy looks like Anthony Perkins.

seriously how long can we afford to be patient with this guy

how did we ever lose two games to these guys last week

is it me or did singleton just go off on farmer? "whatever, you're gonna paint the picture you want I guess..."

I'm not sure how based on 12 games this season people have seemingly concluded that Cleveland has regressed...

cheap win...if I were a jays fan I'd be pissed as hell and yeah, of course I'll take it

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 07:56 AM) Well you could argue that Mark Buehrle isn't a big strikeout pitcher either (although he does have a little more K's than Garland), and his ERA has been good for the last few seasons. Being a damn good strikeout pitcher isn't the end all to be all to be a good pitcher. One of the main reasons Garland was so good in 2005 besides walking hitters less, was the fact that he gave up 8 less home runs that he did the year before. Buehrle is in the top 20 in K/9... For 2005... Santana is #1 in K/9 and #2 in ERA Lackey is #2 in K/9 and #6 in ERA Millwood is #11 in K/9 and #1 in ERA Colon is #16 in K/9 (and I would argue he had an off strikeout year) and #8 in ERA Contreras is in the top 12 in both categories... Buehrle is 20 in K/9 and #3 in ERA (a little fluky, but not really that much) The only pitcher to have a similar outlying statistic to Garland's is Jarrod Washburn, who has a similar K/9 and a similarly low ERA, but again I would argue that that is a fluke season more than a trend. bottom line, there's a very strong correlation.

Guys, a pitcher with that low a K/9 total over an entire season/career is not going to be able to sustain an elite ERA or WHIP. Really, this is elementary statistical analysis. He was 37th in qualified pitchers in the AL in K/9 in 2005, yet he had one of the lowest ERAs. That, my friends, is a fluke. A greater percentage of balls he throws are put into play than other pitchers. It's not about the defense doing things for you. It's about the fact that when balls are put into play, things like hits and runs tend to happen slightly more often than when a pitcher strikes a hitter out. When things like hits and runs happen slightly more, your ERA and WHIP tends to suffer. Jon is and always will be a very serviceable 4/5 starter, occasionally when he's really on (like last year) he's a 3. He will probably end up this season with 14-16 wins and an era between 4.2 and 4.4. Those are extremely realistic projections based on his career numbers. They are also just fine for what this team needs from him.

also, last year Buehrle was 5.67/9 and Garland was just 4.68/9. That's a little more of a discrepency.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 01:16 PM) What's the difference between 5.3 K/9 and 4.9 K/9, aside from 0.4? One of course is the face of the franchise, and one is being shipped out by White Sox fans already. I'm just glad KW jumped to conclusions like this last year when he replaced Jermaine Dye after a bad April and he replaced Joe Crede after a bad May. The only thing I said is that his K/9 is low enough to believe he's gonna get rocked every once in a while. What happened last year in terms of ERA and WHIP is a total fluke. Sorry if that offends some of you. Nowhere in this thread am I saying I am ready to ship Garland out. He's a fine fourth/fifth starter and will probably go 16-13 with a 4.2-4.4 ERA. We have plenty of offense to bail him out most of the time.

I could CLEAN UP this year betting you guys that Garland's season-long ERA will be over 4.00. He's still going to get 15+ wins, don't get me wrong. He is not going to be close to his ERA and WHIP totals from last season

Garland's lack of K's suggest that he's not nearly as good of a pitcher as his ERA and WHIP suggested last season. Simply put, a lot of balls get put into play when he pitches.

Singleton will never be good. I don't care what kind of feel-good memory you have from the 2000 season about some cycle he may have hit or whatnot. I worked in radio for four years. The guy doesn't have a f***ing clue whatsoever. A change needs to be made ASAP, and whatever it takes to expedite said change I will be willing to contribute time effort and possibly money to. This is atrocious, and an embarrassment to the White Sox organization, players and the fans.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 10, 2006 -> 12:09 PM) Hes still better than Ron Santo I can't believe I'm saying this. You're wrong.

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ Apr 4, 2006 -> 03:25 PM) Can somebody articulate what was so horrible about them? I saw it all over the game thread (for those of us who don't have radio). no chemistry, stepping all over each other's lines, some dead air followed by awkward transitions, lots of stuttering and staggering, missed pitches, delayed calls on the action while singleton tries to sew two or three words together

QUOTE(BabyJesus69 @ Apr 4, 2006 -> 03:22 PM) we're 2 games into the season with 2 guys in positions that they're not accustomed to. give it some time. let's see, we move from a hall of fame play by play guy with a butcher boy braggart doing color to a butcher boy braggart play by play guy and a mediocre ex player with zero broadcasting experience and your solution is "give it some time" what did you have in mind, 15, 20 years?

I honestly can't imagine ever turning on the Sox on the radio again. Really bad move by the Sox. Really, really bad.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 4, 2006 -> 01:58 PM) Argh, the dreaded DP. Paulie obviously trying to go yard there and get us back in it though, can't blame him based on the circumstances. on the other hand, I can and will blame him.

Is anyone else stuck at work listening to this disaster of a radio broadcast

Uribe two walks in one game?!?!??