Greg Hibbard

HOLY s*** IN YOUR f***ING FACE SHOWALTER BWAHHAHAHAHAHHA

man, ozuna...

OZOWNEDA

he's on the ropes FINISH HIM

seriously, what the f*** is cora's problem? sending paul konerko, the slowest runner in the history of humankind on a short single to center WITH NOBODY OUT? WHAT. THE. f***.

we are hitting this guy well..why have pablo bunt?

URIBE!

strike or not, that was a helluva pitch to thome

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 07:46 PM) Or you could stop blowing sunshine out of your ass, either one. How did you feel after Hunter took out Burk? Did you think the Sox were demoralized? This is the same damn situation, this game is incredibly mental and a rough mental patch like this can kill a team's spirit. um, wow. explain to me where in this thread I am "blowing sunshine out of my ass" then explain to me your double standard about personal attacks and game threads

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 07:40 PM) This is incredibly demoralizing to the White Sox. I honestly would not be surprised if this was the start of a losing streak right here. jesus christ, just stop already this is one game...let's not blow this out of proportion we were not going to sweep a 4 game set at arlington, big surprise

Hawk is on serious tilt

hahahahha you f***er

QUOTE(rudylaw @ Jun 13, 2006 -> 09:09 PM) All take this from Jon for the rest of his time with the White Sox. This is what Jon is, he is not an ace. If Jon can win 13-15 games per year and have an era around in the low to mid 4s I'll be a happy man. Both of those would be nothing short of miraculous...do you really think he can win 8-10 games in his next 20 starts and have an ERA under 3? I think 11-12 wins, 4.90 era is more realistic and I would be ecstatic with that...

If you guys don't think there's a definite trend going on with those numbers, I don't know what to tell you

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jun 14, 2006 -> 09:51 AM) too small of a sample size...those numbers are rather meaningless 55 innings pitched with a 3.93 ERA is not a large enough sample size? um....

I just compiled a bunch of data on Jon... TOTAL ERA (all 13 starts) Inning 1 - 2.77 Inning 2 - 5.54 Inning 3 - 3.46 Inning 4 - 7.62 Inning 5 - 6.92 Inning 6 - 10.80 Inning 7 - 5.68 Inning 8 - 9.00 Pretty s***ty all around, right? Well, look what happens if you take out the first two starts (in which he gave up an absurd amount of runs, pretty anomylous for him) TOTAL ERA BY INNING (last 11 starts) Inning 1 - 2.45 Inning 2 - 6.55* Inning 3 - 4.09 Inning 4 - 3.27 Inning 5 - 3.27 Inning 6 - 9.31 Inning 7 - 5.68 Inning 8 - 9.00 * - he has never given up more than 2 runs in the second inning all year, giving up 2 runs three times and 1 run twice, so he has seemingly avoided the big inning there. Aggregate ERA over the last 11 starts from inning 1-5 = 24 earned runs in 55 innings pitched = 3.93 ERA. So clearly, what Ozzie did last night was correct, and I think that if we keep Jon on a really short leash and pitch McCarthy for 2+ innings, this could be a formula for success. I like the idea of having Jon pitch into the sixth inning with a couple run lead, but the moment he allows 2 baserunners or 1 run scored, whichever comes first, yanking him for McCarthy (or a lefthander if matchups dictate). If we have a 1 run lead, I yank him as soon as he gives up a baserunner after the 5th inning. He's just too disasterous in the 6th inning to continually let him pitch there. Last week in Detroit Ozzie really got burned not bringing the bullpen in a lot sooner in my opinion. I think we can usually count on McCarthy being available there because most of our other starters pitch relatively deep into the game, regardless of if they are winning or losing...

I really think people need to regain a little perspective on what exactly a game means within a 162 game schedule and stop with the knee jerk reactions.

I was at that bears browns game and I yelled at people for leaving early and called them fake fans. I'm sure the image of me screaming at them as they walked up the aisles is burned in their memories forever

Our team just won the world series, is playing like s*** and despite that is 15 games over .500 what's a more realistic disposition: a. giving the team the benefit of the doubt for the first half based on what you know they are capable of b. acting like chicken little nightly in game threads

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 07:39 PM) Shouldn't you be happy because VMart homered? What have I said that's so wrong? I feel like when 40 pct of your starting rotation is throwing the ball like s***, your chances at making the playoffs, in a terrific league, isn't very good. The White Sox will not struggle to make the playoffs at all. Every other contender is as full of holes (or moreso) than we are. We just won two straight series against our biggest division rivals, but thank god we have you here to put a completely negative spin on it

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) And it's the main reason we'll struggle to make the playoffs. month after month, year after year, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

throw beat him EASILY he should never have been sent

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QUOTE(peanut33tillman @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 02:45 PM) Were all just pissed, frustrated etc...dont take it personal this games just irritating as f*** you know what's more frustrating? that a lot of the fans on this board in particular have paper-thin faith and are instantly insanely negative at the first SIGN of a loss.