Greg Hibbard

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) Lee in the lineup explains the Cubs scoring 10 runs off of Buehlre? Just admit it. Buehrle pitched poorly. Even if you factor in Lee's presence, and somehow believe he alone changes the complexion of the Cubs offense, Cedeno (who hit in front of Lee) had 2 hits, 1 run, and didn't drive in any himself. Lee had 2 hits, 1 RBI, 1 run. Most of the damage done to Buehlre was AFTER Lee. This had nothing to do with him in the lineup. I know Lee's good, but not good enough to where he's providing protection for players hitting 4 spots after he is. It does seem that way, but I wouldn't have dismissed it before today even began. I'm explaining to you why those numbers aren't relevant compartively in terms of considering the Cubs offense as "one of the worst". Clearly, with Lee and Ramirez together in their lineup they are obviously NOT one of the worst, no matter how you slice it. Having a hitter like Lee in that lineup affects how you pitch to almost every one of those hitters. Buehrle sucked today. He's also the best pitcher this organization has had in a long time, in terms of a career. I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and if he lays another egg in his next start, I'll be really worried and pissed.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:46 PM) Are you a priest? Have you ever found a single thing to criticize about this team? I have plenty of criticisms of this team, but I think it's very early in the season to be even talking about the postseason, much less drastic changes to the roster because kneejerk know-nothings are panicking. For one thing, Politte needs to go. For another, our starting pitcher needs to start watching some f***ing film. For another, we need to start practicing bunting. For another, Williams needs to start looking into additional deals, namely Andruw Jones who apparently is available, and I wouldn't mind also looking into Smoltz as well. I pretty much called for the firing of Williams throughout the 2004 season, although I wasn't a member of this site yet. I also nearly burned myself out for an entire lifetime during the abysmal 2001 season, screaming at David Wells, Jim Parque and half a dozen other schlubs. I was furious at the Foulke/Koch trade, as anyone was with half a f***ing brain. I was enraged during the 2002 campaign. I was beside myself during the 2003 collapse. Reality check. We just won a World Championship with this coaching staff, this core team, and this front office. Yes, there are changes, but the core is very, very similar. If there ever was a f***ing time to cut a team some slack and have a little f***ing faith (you know, like we DIDN'T have last year) that things would get even better than the .650 FIRST HALF RECORD WE POSTED, that time is now. You'll have to excuse me if my patience runs a little further than the one loss we had today. You'll have to excuse me if 8 straight series wins (5 of them against playoff contenders) is good f***ing enough for me. You'll have to excuse me if a 53-28 record is a good enough first half record for me, no matter how we did it. You'll have to excuse me if I think this team is still going to play far better baseball from the mound, and you'll have to f***ing excuse me if I have a little bit of f***ing faith in Don Cooper to straighten out Garland, straighten out Garcia, and yes, to even straighten out Vazquez. Someone asked earlier today what teams have won the World Series without a dominant rotation recently. Well, I know the Cleveland Indians of the late 1990s were able to slug their way to the World Series twice in the late 1990s, and as long as we can get there, I'm fairly f***ing confident we won't find a way to crap the f***ing bed like those Indians teams did. QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggreg...batting&group=9 Now, can you tell me which team is atop the list and which is at the bottom? Sox offense couldn't statistically be any better than the Cubs overall. I expect the Sox to score runs. However, I don't expect Buehrle -- our ace, supposedly -- (second "ace reference, Jackie ) to give up 10 f***ing runs. Something about him and 7 run first innings which is beginning to wear on me. Don't even suggest Derrek Lee is the difference of runs scored by the Cubs this afternoon. You just have to admit Buehlre embarrassed himself. I'm sure as hell not giving the Cubs any credit. Again, most of the cubs "offensive numbers" were compiled without Lee. With Lee, they are a FAR better team.

why is it that our offense "destroyed" one of the best pitchers in the NL, but Buehrle "wet the bed" is it ok to have one set of standards for our pitcher and our offense and another for the opponents? Honestly, I don't get it.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) 8th series win in a row. YES BUT WE LOST TODAY AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE LOST ONE GAME OUT OF THREE DON'T YOU GET IT?

oh well, cubs win the world series oh wait

win or lose, this is one of the craziest games I have ever seen

If Politte isn't out of here after this game

Liriano has 8 starts take a look at Santana's April game log

does konerko NOT understand the concept of beating the ball on the ground to the left side?

Quick guys, name me two starting pitchers with at least 10 starts that have not had two bad outings this year

Here's a few things people might not be aware of the ball carries a little differently at Wrigley Field on a hot July weekend than it does on a chilly fall evening at US Cellular Field Just sayin'

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:55 PM) Personally, watching this team outslug opponents isn't even fun. Some people might like it but that type of style won't win you s*** when it really counts. This team needs better pitching. And please save your "we're 53-27 BLAH BLAH BLAH..." posts. We're 53-27 blah blah blah. Complain about this when complaint is actually warranted. We haven't lost a series in about a month, and a bunch of those teams we faced are going to be playoff teams, including Detroit. I swear to god, some of you would probably kill yourselves if you were faced with rooting for a team that is ACTUALLY struggling. Grow a thicker skin, stop projecting three months out, and maybe look back on your posts during August 2005, (during a certain 7 game losing streak), and have a few laughs.

yeah, people need to have some perspective on a bad outing, but this is soxtalk, where people would rather type a four page essay about how they want to lynch a player instead of rooting for a comeback I've stopped expecting anything less than the lowest common denominator from this place

QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 02:41 PM) hmm marks falling apart again how is an error and an unbeleivable piece of woodwork out of the zone "falling apart"

pitch count getting up there for Zambrano

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no matter what happens this inning, we need to get Zambrano to 70 pitches

guys, if we can get this back to a three run deficit, we are in their heads enough to make this an easy comeback.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 01:48 PM) I want to change the channel...but...I am hoping the offense will come to the rescue. I did tell my wife yesterday that I didn't think we would win today. I would rather face Zambrano when he doesn't have so much to prove. Until the Cubs win the world series (when hell freezes over), Zambrano will ALWAYS have something to prove against the White Sox Fortunately, we have absolutely zero to prove to the cubs we beat their asses in four of the first five games head to head this season they could score 80 today and it wouldn't change a damn thing tomorrow

It's not worse than that Oakland outing a couple years ago The Minny outing, there weren't hardly any earned runs because of some errors

pretty surreal

AND IT'S FINAL!!!!

generalizing about all cubs fans is almost as bad as generalizing about all sox fans...

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having BA bunt there when a deep fly to center advances both runners easily with Pierre's arm....