Greg Hibbard

with this situation, there isn't even a glass in the room

GIMME A HELL YEAH!

BALL WAS f***ING CRUSHED

did this really warrant its own thread?

I probably voted 700 times today.

QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jul 5, 2006 -> 11:02 PM) Good news, but I find it hard to believe the park didn't sell-out more games the year it opened--was it '92? April 18, 1991 got the ticket framed right in front of me

A question for the ERA stat stranglers Are 8-6 wins worth less than 2-0 wins in the World Series?

BIIIIIG zone for the big man tonight that said, I'll take it.... O's fans probably going ballistic on their board

a Rogers start in the all-star game means one less Rogers start in the second half and more fatigue for a 42 year old arm...

CONTRERAS KONG DYE GIMME A HELL YEAH!

lively gamethread today!

I say wait until late July for a shake up, but that's just me

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 3, 2006 -> 07:34 PM) Later peeps, I can't possibly be bothered to sit through a game we are losing man, we have spoiled fans

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jul 3, 2006 -> 03:10 PM) Veteran team, veteran top 2 pitchers with a 57 hr hitter. Big difference. 1) We have three hitters on pace for 40+ home runs, and another on pace for 30. 2) Contreras and Buehrle are capable of being as dominant as Schilling and Johnson were in that season, and I sure as f*** like Garcia and Garland more than Omar Daal or whoever the f*** they were running out there 3) Bobby Jenks >>>>>> BK Kim As for the "no middle ground" contigent...it's ok to say "Buehrle sucked today." It's not ok to say something like "Buehrle sucks ("at all times" implied), and this team is not making the playoffs or winning the division or winning the world series." It's also not ok to say "Garland needs to be demoted" or "Vazquez is a piece of s***," because believe it or not, mediocre first halves happen. Ask Jose Contreras about 2005. And as much as you might like the White Sox coaching staff to react to your every whim, they're not going to do that, because sticking with a philosophy and fixing things from within is what won them a championship in 2005. EDIT: and the reason why I say it's not ok to say those things about Garland and Vazquez, because realistically, there's no way to use them on this team if they are not starting, and there's no guarantee McCarthy would be any better. CLEARLY the best course of action for now (while they are still WINNING!) is to stick with them until at least the end of July.

the offense is clearly not the problem on this team

this thread is going to be some great comedy in about three months

Starters by a country mile, because pen is more easily replaceable both from without and within. It would be hard to justify yanking one of these starters for a virtual rookie (McCarthy) or making a drastic move like a trade which might have a net negative impact on the clubhouse. It appears as though we are probably stuck with these guys, at least through July (and rightfully so, in my opinion), and although I have more faith that Garcia is turning the corner, either Garland or Vazquez better get straightened out quickly or one or both are going to be seeing some long relief time after this month.

Dear assface, victor/spoils. Sincerely, Kiss My Chicago Ass.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 08:25 PM) Lee in the lineup explains the Cubs scoring 10 runs off of Buehlre? Just admit it. Buehrle pitched poorly. Even if you factor in Lee's presence, and somehow believe he alone changes the complexion of the Cubs offense, Cedeno (who hit in front of Lee) had 2 hits, 1 run, and didn't drive in any himself. Lee had 2 hits, 1 RBI, 1 run. Most of the damage done to Buehlre was AFTER Lee. This had nothing to do with him in the lineup. I know Lee's good, but not good enough to where he's providing protection for players hitting 4 spots after he is. It does seem that way, but I wouldn't have dismissed it before today even began. I'm explaining to you why those numbers aren't relevant compartively in terms of considering the Cubs offense as "one of the worst". Clearly, with Lee and Ramirez together in their lineup they are obviously NOT one of the worst, no matter how you slice it. Having a hitter like Lee in that lineup affects how you pitch to almost every one of those hitters. Buehrle sucked today. He's also the best pitcher this organization has had in a long time, in terms of a career. I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, and if he lays another egg in his next start, I'll be really worried and pissed.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:46 PM) Are you a priest? Have you ever found a single thing to criticize about this team? I have plenty of criticisms of this team, but I think it's very early in the season to be even talking about the postseason, much less drastic changes to the roster because kneejerk know-nothings are panicking. For one thing, Politte needs to go. For another, our starting pitcher needs to start watching some f***ing film. For another, we need to start practicing bunting. For another, Williams needs to start looking into additional deals, namely Andruw Jones who apparently is available, and I wouldn't mind also looking into Smoltz as well. I pretty much called for the firing of Williams throughout the 2004 season, although I wasn't a member of this site yet. I also nearly burned myself out for an entire lifetime during the abysmal 2001 season, screaming at David Wells, Jim Parque and half a dozen other schlubs. I was furious at the Foulke/Koch trade, as anyone was with half a f***ing brain. I was enraged during the 2002 campaign. I was beside myself during the 2003 collapse. Reality check. We just won a World Championship with this coaching staff, this core team, and this front office. Yes, there are changes, but the core is very, very similar. If there ever was a f***ing time to cut a team some slack and have a little f***ing faith (you know, like we DIDN'T have last year) that things would get even better than the .650 FIRST HALF RECORD WE POSTED, that time is now. You'll have to excuse me if my patience runs a little further than the one loss we had today. You'll have to excuse me if 8 straight series wins (5 of them against playoff contenders) is good f***ing enough for me. You'll have to excuse me if a 53-28 record is a good enough first half record for me, no matter how we did it. You'll have to excuse me if I think this team is still going to play far better baseball from the mound, and you'll have to f***ing excuse me if I have a little bit of f***ing faith in Don Cooper to straighten out Garland, straighten out Garcia, and yes, to even straighten out Vazquez. Someone asked earlier today what teams have won the World Series without a dominant rotation recently. Well, I know the Cleveland Indians of the late 1990s were able to slug their way to the World Series twice in the late 1990s, and as long as we can get there, I'm fairly f***ing confident we won't find a way to crap the f***ing bed like those Indians teams did. QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 07:57 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggreg...batting&group=9 Now, can you tell me which team is atop the list and which is at the bottom? Sox offense couldn't statistically be any better than the Cubs overall. I expect the Sox to score runs. However, I don't expect Buehrle -- our ace, supposedly -- (second "ace reference, Jackie ) to give up 10 f***ing runs. Something about him and 7 run first innings which is beginning to wear on me. Don't even suggest Derrek Lee is the difference of runs scored by the Cubs this afternoon. You just have to admit Buehlre embarrassed himself. I'm sure as hell not giving the Cubs any credit. Again, most of the cubs "offensive numbers" were compiled without Lee. With Lee, they are a FAR better team.

why is it that our offense "destroyed" one of the best pitchers in the NL, but Buehrle "wet the bed" is it ok to have one set of standards for our pitcher and our offense and another for the opponents? Honestly, I don't get it.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 2, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) 8th series win in a row. YES BUT WE LOST TODAY AND THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE LOST ONE GAME OUT OF THREE DON'T YOU GET IT?

oh well, cubs win the world series oh wait

win or lose, this is one of the craziest games I have ever seen

If Politte isn't out of here after this game