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I don't think anybody has thought about this either but when Vizcaino's slider is on lefties can't hit him. Case in point 2003. Lefties hit .190 against him. I think i would rather risk Vizcaino's slider being on than Marte coming into a game.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) Way to back up your claim. I think I'm really wasting my time with you Mr. Marte Jr. hey look it's Mrs. Marte.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:17 PM) Way to back up your claim. I think I'm really wasting my time with you Mr. Marte Jr. hey look it's Mrs. Marte.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:15 PM) It's this simple: Marte adds a lot more potential value to this team than Viz in a 7 game series. Viz is only useful against a team with righties who struggle vs the slider. However, with Duque in the pen, that basically eliminates any of Viz's value. Even though Marte has been such an enigma, he still has a better chance than Viz and getting a big out against someone like G. Anderson or R. Cano. Ozzie just has to use Marte wisely. If the home plate ump has a small zone, Marte likely has no chance of getting 3 strikes over the plate. ugh don't give me potential give me results.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) Marte>Viz. McCarthy>Viz. End of story. i love how these Marte lovers try to make up stats to defend him. THE GUYS SUCKS! Everybody on this board can pitch better than him right now.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) How did I know this would come up? I don't recall saying I wanted Viz as the lefty specialist. You guys want Marte as the second lefty man because he is lefthanded. I have shown you that there are 4 RHP better than Marte at getting lefties out. What is Marte's use again? Vizcaino can eat up innings, that is the only time I expect to see him in the playoffs (like the Braves-Astros game on right now.) Marte is completely worthless. VS. RHP: Marte: .817 OPS Viz: .692 OPS difference: .125 VS. LHP: Marte: .767 Viz: .857 difference: .090 Overall OPS: Marte: .791 Viz: .762 Viz > Marte It's not like I want to see Viz pitch. I rather see both of them not pitch, but I'm a 100% sure that if Marte is on the roster, Ozzie will use his s***ty ass because the batter is left handed. i agree with you man. Plus Viz has been great in the 2nd half and is starting to cut down on those walks.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:08 PM) No he usually get's the er. The other day he got lucky. no it's not. The reason his ERA is in the 3's is because other pitchers bail him out. I recall this one time in Cleveland at the beginning of the season Marte was put in and walked 2 batters. Shingo was brought in and bailed him out by striking out Aaron Boone. That happened almost everytime he pitched. This was the one that came to me first though. Also those couple times in Cleveland at the end of the season.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) Well the stats would say other wise. and if there is one thing you can't argue about in baseball it is....stats.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 04:04 PM) Hooray for Viz being able to come in in no pressure situations, and lowering that era, and then when he gets into a mess another reliever bailing him out. no that's Marte. Marte's ERA would be 6 if all our other relievers didn't bail him out. Case in point Friday.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:53 PM) So you are now using some sort of clubhouse reason we can't see, as opposed to using a statistical basis. This keeps getting better. i know Marte is paying Ozzie.

here you go? Let me know if you want me to make changes to it.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 01:55 PM) I'm still sticking with that, except I'm getting very nervous about picking Michigan over Penn State, they have some nasty athletes now. i think they beat OSU. Penn St i don't know. They have always dominated Penn State. If they make a QB switch it's possible.

Any background?

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 11:24 AM) I don't know how Marte's still on the roster. I know everyone's not happy with Garland going early, but I'm happy with the rotation. Garland will obviously throw a simulated game today. he will be competing with mark prior and Kerry Wood for the Simulated Cy Young.

Anybody seen Two for the Money? I really want to see it. Al Pacino is still one of the best actors around. Also i really like D.J. Carrouso's other film The Salton Sea. It's a great movie. Anybody who hasn't seen it should.

QUOTE(SoxPhan7 @ Oct 7, 2005 -> 08:47 PM) Hello all, I have tried to make myself a sig with cotts and buehrle but i am clueless. If someone could help me out and make one of those two I would really appreciate it. Thanks alot! i will try.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) Yah like 3 Kings. yeah it looks very similar to Three Kings which is my favorite movie of all time. It looks like a Dark Comedy that sends an Anti War message. I loved how Three Kings was funny yet had a very serious message in it.

I have worn the same hat for the playoffs every single day of them because we have won all three games. I haven't even cleaned it yet. Boy is it filthy right now.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) i was hoping you'd say you just saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geico that to.

Right now hawk is ripping into Marte.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 12:31 PM) You get 13 active BTW I'm pretty sure that's in the new CBA yeah i think your right.

J. Hood had Mac on from MJH and Mac told J. Hood that one of the players came up to him during the celebration and said that Marte will probably not be on the LCS Roster.

THE ONE! THE ONLY! EL DUQUE!

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 01:21 AM) Marte is just worthless right now and has been for almost the entire season. There's no need to dump Blum who can at least play 3 positions while Marte is more likely to hurt us than help us if he stays on the roster. Dump Marte and add McCarthy. Marte has no confidence and is pitching like a complete headcase coward. the way i look at it Blum can only help. He can't hurt the Sox with his versatility assuming Ozzie uses him the right way. Marte can hurt the Sox.

QUOTE(AirScott @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) all I know is, I just can't get enough of these stories. ALCS Tuesday!! what's that Tim McGraw song that they play on MNF? "I like it, I love it, I want some more of it." That's exactly how i feel about these Sox.