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QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:46 AM) Sure it is. I think Forman and Paxson getting fired is a pipe dream though. and i think Forman and Paxson fixing things is just as big of a pipe dream

Gimme shirsey

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) I honestly don't disagree with you on GarPax. Best case scenario is that the Bulls sit tight at the deadline. So does Boston. The Bulls are brutal down the stretch. GarPax gets fired. Boston loses in like 6 to Cleveland in the Conference Finals. Boston gives up the Brooklyn pick + Bradley + Brown package for Butler in the offseason under a new front office. ^^^^this is the preferred alternate path^^^^

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) I think that if the Bulls are interested in moving Butler, they will never see a better package than Boston could offer now. Brown + Brooklyn 17 + Bradley (if that was on the table) would give the Bulls a pretty big head start on the rebuild. Most contenders aren't sitting on a surplus of top 3 picks that they can move for your star. The alternative is what is the path to winning with Butler? They will need to either hit on some mid-teens picks or do some exceptional work in FA (either through the big name FA signings or finding value in other team's castoffs). But if the Bulls are not a top 3 seed in the East by 2020, I will be shocked if Butler re-signs. Obviously, if the Celtics don't make a move, this can all be re-visited again in the offseason. And I completely understand the lack of trust and faith in GarPax to take on a rebuild. But if the Bulls spend the next 3+ years as a .500 team in the East squeaking into the playoffs, they will set themselves back another half decade. I am not going to continue to reiterate my distrust of Garpax(as I reiterate my distrust of Garpax lol) Making that trade locks Garpax in for the foreseeable future to see through the rebuild. That, to me, is unconscionable (sp?)

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 09:10 AM) You don't have Jimmy as the asset that he is now once that finally happens though. That's the part nobody talks about. Jimmy is 28 and has played heavy minutes. He's also going to need a massive extension in a couple of seasons. The plan I proposed may not work. I've said that. Adding pieces around Jimmy to be a "playoff team" is stupid though and offends me as a sports fan. You keep acting like Butler is ready to fall off a cliff and the bulls are operating in his walk year. Money talks, if they swirl down the drain this season like they did last season(and the final Thibs season which was engineered by Gar's power play), it will not go unnoticed. Let it happen. The Bulls can still trade Jimmy this year, next year, and the following season, and the season after that, he is signed until 2020. f*** Gar

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) It is true. If you want to keep Jimmy and build around him you may think you "want to win championships" but it's delusion. Jimmy is really good. You need two more players that are really good. I have no idea where those guys are coming from. Generally, the best players in the NBA are taken really high in the draft. That's how you get premium talent. The Bulls have no path to that talent. Look, i know you believe in your one path theory, its great and all, but it has just as much guarantee as wanting this front office to fail hard and get fired for losing corporate sponsorships due to lack of wins. Take a gander at Gars drafting and trading decisions and free agent over his entire career and tell me you think this "path" is the only way to winning a championship. After you say yes, I will sell you some of Dick Allens oceanfront property in Iowa

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) It's probably going to take a 1st to acquire him. He's not a fit for the modern NBA. It's another guy that doesn't fit the system of the coach you have. He's a terrible defensive player and is unathletic. He can score but he's such a defensive liability that he doesn't really fit what most teams are trying to do. I want them to trade Butler for a nice deal from the Celtics because it's the only thing that makes sense if they truly care about winning titles (which they don't). As a sports fan, I think the point of this whole thing is winning championships. Could they cobble together some pieces around their star and win 50 games? Yes, probably. They can't be a legit contender doing it though which I've stated. Butler is on a cheap deal but they can't add enough around him to compete for championships. And then in 2.5 years he will get a massive deal. They can't add around him fast enough to make it worth it. Trading Jimmy resets the potential championship window. The rookies probably wouldn't be as good as Butler but they are cheaper and offer hope ideally. I understand if you don't trust Paxson and Forman to complete this process but I believe that relying on them to complete the rebuild is still a better option than patching 45 wins teams together and wasting Butler's prime without cashing in that asset. You may disagree but if you do your standard isn't winning championships. Categorically untrue

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 23, 2017 -> 06:36 AM) The Salmons deal cost us a draft pick that turned into Isaiah Thomas. The Bulls had 3 chances that draft to pick Isaiah Thomas, he was the very last pick. The deal made no difference, the Bulls chose not to draft him

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 04:05 PM) When is the last time the Bulls made a good trade? Simply for the fact that they ditched a rapidly declining and disinterested player, I would say trading Rose to the Knicks was good

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 01:28 PM) I have to ask the question...I realize George Karl didn't work in Sacremento, but why is George Karl a bad coach? Guy has been very successful in a couple different destinations. I would say George Karl, at that point in his career, was not really a good coach anymore. I mean, look at what he did immediately upon getting hired. He immediately talked s*** about Boogie and tried to get him traded, openly. It was extremely unprofessional and things never got better

QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 12:44 PM) Dan Pompei is considered one of the nicest guys in the industry so I think he might. Not after the little cut up of Pompeiis comments that he just played for TO

I will be surprised if Dan Pompeii comes on another show with Parkins again

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 22, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) "It's the Power That Does Something to Me" Dispatches from the Saturday night Trump rally. What do you do when a good portion of the country has completely and willfully deluded themselves? You breathe oxygen under a blue sky and repeatedly acknowledge those two things?

QUOTE (Sox-35th @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) What a garbage interview. I was super uncomfortable. The guy was just lawyer speaking through the whole thing, he refused to talk about anything

whitesoxdave saying the Bulls are trying to add Niko to the deal in order to get the Nets pick back. Weird source, i know, and he is throwing a "TIFWIW" in front of it

Whoa Jason Goff just flexed some muscles on air when Chuck Wasserstrom wasn't answering questions they were asking

Drew Peterson is no longer in IDOC custody and they aren't saying where he is https://www.google.com/amp/cltv.com/2017/02.../?client=safari

Jeannie Buss fired Jim Buss. Magic Johnson now President of Basketball ops

Ouch, Deadspin gives a little bit of a Derrick Rose reality check

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 09:59 AM) I guess the question is this. Does trading Jimmy for picks lead to an extended leash for Paxson? Is Gar gone regardless? If Paxson is still here no matter what, then it's either trust Paxson to make good picks, or it's waste the rest of Jimmy's time in Chicago without getting anything back in return. To me, this is similar to the Sox. The Bulls need to do something. Either that's trying to add another star through trade or FA, or it's moving Butler and starting over in what is supposed to be a loaded draft. In either event, you have to hope that the Bulls' FO doesn't screw it up. To me, Jaylen Brown, Crowder and the Nets pick in '17 might be enough to get it done. But there's no deal without Brown + the Nets pick in '17 as two of the pieces. Yea, I don't see it like the sox at all because I have zero faith that Gar could pull off anything similar to the Sale or Eaton trade. Think about some of the mind boggling stupid decisions that guy has made. He lost Asik for nothing. He traded Korver 4 years ago for nothing, the same Korver that just fetched a first rounder. He traded 2 first rounders for McDermott who it turns out isn't the guy they have been desperately trying to replace, Korver. He signed Dunleavy to a three year deal when Dunleavy wasn't even sure he was going to be able to play again(and really, he hasn't). Teague over the guy his coach wanted. f***ING HOIBERG Then you go into all of the things he may have done, like telling Butler he was going to give Snell his deal if he didn't accept an offer, the childish power struggle with Thibs for RECOGNITION. Telling the players not to listen to Thibs in his final year. I'm sure there are many many many more that I'm leaving out. Bottom line, again, is f*** that guy

i understand people wanting to trade Jimmy for picks, but I just dont want that. This front office doesnt deserve it, i dont want to see them f*** all of this up. I would rather they sit on their hands and the team crash spectacularly into the ground and miss the playoffs again, with a 1/4 filled UC with booing fans at the end of the season. I dont want Garpax "fixing" this team. I dont want them settling for a s***ty deal with Boston where they dont get that Nets pick, i dont want them making any high picks in the draft, i dont want them doing anything anymore. f*** them.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:14 AM) Damn near any team could have beat that. Did Vivek watch a Hield college reel and become enamored? He feels that Hield will run the 4 on 5 defense flawlessly

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 08:17 AM) The scary thing is that his supporters have no problem with his lies. This is completely out of the norm, Trump constantly lies, it's like it's completely natural for him. I'm not sure if he is deliberately lying or if he is delusional enough to actually believe the lies he's spewing. The guy scares the s*** outta me, I believe he's so way out there that a military conflict is inevitable. They definitely want a war, Bannon has talked about it many times.

Only 9k at a ego rub campaign event? Sad!

Rough week for wrestling, George The Animal Steele, Nicole Bass, and now Ivan Koloff