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QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) Let's see, I asked for those that were signed in the past 15-20 years, & you gave us: 1. Magglio Ordonez, signed in 1991. 2. Carlos Lee, signed in 1994. 3. Aaron Rowand, a 1998 draftee, so he does count, to be fair. 4. Joe Crede, drafted in 1996. In other words, we have to go back all the way to a 1998 draftee to find a consistently productive position player. (READ: Not a one-year wonder, like Beckham, Trayce Thompson, or perhaps even Tim Anderson.) Thank you for making my point so eloquently for me. They all were brought up within the organization within your time frame and made their debuts within your time frame. I don't disagree that the development has been bad but they have had some players I'm also not advocating bringing up Eloy, that is ridiculous

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 09:17 AM) Don't change my message, please. I've never used the word "hate" when it comes to the owner. I have zero personal animosity to the man, as I've never met him. However, this is a White Sox message board, correct? And Jerry Reinsdorf is the owner of the White Sox, correct? And that means decisions he makes as owner have a direct bearing on the team's results and that which we as fans want to support? Well, do the math. Line up the years and years of those decisions with the results on the field, and see what you get. You get criticism of those decisions given the routine losing of the organization. The original poster of this thread brought up one of those decisions from 20 years ago that happened to be a doozy, and so I shared my point of view on that decision. I think I made valid points, but at no time did I inject emotion suggesting personal hatred for the man. I just want him to stop making bad decisions. Sadly, I've been waiting an awful long time for that to happen. This is such a steaming pile, you literally jump at every chance you get and actually make up reasons to constantly hate on Reinsdorf. This isn't even a debate, you constantly change conversations in order to do this. It's sad and you are a poor poster because of it. Which is a shame because I think you would have something to add to the site if you could get past/over/stop talking about your grudge. Don't give me "this is a white sox messageboard" bulls*** either. Your stance is well known, there is nothing more you could add to it, you have been repeating yourself for years.

QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 08:53 AM) I'm fascinated by this idea that the Sox are "hurting the development" of Jimenez by keeping him in W-S: 1. Could you describe in detail exactly how this could occur? 2. Can you point to more than one player whose development was "hurt" by going at a sensible pace in promoting him? 3. Exactly what part of Jimenez's game will be irreparably damaged by sensibly promoting him, rather than rushing him up? 4. What will Jimenez fail to learn, or fail to encounter in Birmingham in 2018, as opposed to 2017? Thanks in advance for indulging my curiosity about this topic. Insofar as Devers & Boston, I'd like you to show us an example of a positon player that was SUCCESSFULLY scouted, signed, & developed by this organization that went on to be a productive player over the long term. You know, someone. ANYONE in the past ~15-20 years in this system that was rushed up to The Show by this org? The point? Devers is likely up because Boston has been BETTER at scouting, signing, & developing position players that our White Sox, full stop. Maggs, Lee, Rowand, Crede were pretty decent

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 09:02 AM) Of course not. He had the sage Ron Schueler at his side advising him back then. You remember Ron Schueler, don't you? He was the guy brought in by the genius owner after the 1990 season as the guy who, the owner explained to us at the time, would "get the team from Point B to Point C", meaning a championship. Reinsdorf fired the guy who got the team from "Point A to Point B" through successful drafts and trades that brought the team the likes of Thomas, Ventura, McDowell, Fernandez, Alvarez, Lance Johnson, Sosa, etc. But the genius owner deemed him unable to get the team to this "Point C" apparently because he wasn't very chummy in the office. Meanwhile, when a "Point C" opportunity presented itself in 1997 with the team only 3 1/2 games out of first place on July 31st, Point C general manager and the genius owner went in the direction of the infamous "White Flag" trade. And Point C general manager would go onto never getting the team to Point C, ironically. Still wonder to this day if Point A to Point B general manager could have done so. What exactly do you hope to accomplish by constantly telling everyone repeatedly at this site how much you hate Reinsdorf? Just curious

QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 08:49 AM) I've lived in Florida for almost 24 years, what is this crappy spring weather you're talking about? The rainy season doesn't start until June. There might be an very rare shower in Spring but most years Florida experiences draught like conditions from October to June. 2017 was one of the driest Winters and Springs in Florida's history, lots of water restrictions and fires breaking out everywhere. I golf 4-5 times a week and can't remember the last time I had to cancel a game because of rain. Even in the rainy season we very seldom get rain in the AM, we tee off at 8am and are done by 11:30 well before the t-storms that start around 2 or 3pm. As far as Arizona goes, it can get nasty out there with cold weather and some rain. I remember watching a PGA event out there in March and it was snowing. This is the first year since the 90's that there wasn't rainouts. So I guess you are right this year http://www.tcpalm.com/story/sports/mlb/spr...fans/100188498/

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 30, 2017 -> 07:36 AM) They of the 86 entire wins to win the division that year, Indians? Yes, I can see how the genius owner could reach that conclusion then. I mean, how can you catch 86 wins. Would be a fool's errand to even think about trying! I'm sure JR made the decision to trade the players all by himself

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) 1) I'm told that a new stadium could still be built in the South Loop at Roosevelt and Clark. Keep in mind that the City of Chicago offered to build a stadium at that site in the mid 1980s and JR stupidly rejected the offer. JR wanted to have a stadium built in Addison. Just by coincidence the stadium would have been built on land that he owned. 2) Nobody ever talks about this but for many years the White Sox did their spring training in Sarasota Florida. Out of nowhere JR announced that the team would be moving to Tuscon Arizona for their spring training games. It was somewhat of a head scratcher. Tuscon wasn't really close to the other teams that trained in Arizona. Turns out JR owned the land that the stadium was built on. More tax benefits for JR. 1) "I'm told". Lmao. I'm sure 2) You don't get rainouts in Arizona. You act like it's bad for a guy to want his team to play on land he owns. Oh the horror! Now the Sox share a fairly new facility with the Dodgers and don't have to worry about crappy Florida spring weather, weird.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 09:02 PM) WTF the run should score whether Matt swung or not! Dead ball because he swung

Every time Clippard comes in, boom, two runners on

Clippard is in. It's on

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Seriously, what the hell was that route? He just stopped when he got close to the fence

Get that man out of right field. Goddamn

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 06:39 PM) Again, he looks like he's guessing on 2 strikes. That is a bad plan That's not necessarily true. If he is thinking breaking ball and gets heater, he guessed wrong. That happens. He has never faced any of these pitchers, he is learning them as he goes. Dude you have to stop freaking out from bat to bat, he will learn.

Mr Hansen that is not how it is done

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 29, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) Buddy Bell, once again....what has he done to distinguish himself since coming on board? Other than pushing KW to give Mark Teahen a contract extension, after pushing hard for him to be acquired from the Royals (where he coached him). Great talent analysis, there. The DBacks are likely to be in the playoffs somehow despite LaRussa and Stewart, someone over there must have done SOMETHING right. Seriously dude, you are the only one that ever brings up Teahen. Give it up who cares?

You know what's funny, when this happened it was outrageous. Now it's accepted and pretty normal

Sorry to hear that Rock

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 09:40 PM) Hmmm. You guys laugh at me when I talk about the danger of getting your head chopped off in a movie theatre, mall, anywhere. That's because it never happens and it is absurd for you to believe it will

I can't wait until guys like Beck are gone forever

Holland is gaaaarbage

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 07:13 PM) I was reading the Priebus stuff and I stumbled on this story of the rape allegation against Trump that was made last year by an underage girl being filed again. I hadn't seen it anywhere. Story was updated June 30 on Huffpost. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10619944 I have read a few tweets that hint around that Trump was involved in the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. Which would be very, very bad

The gameday giveaway, ugly Christmas sweater hats edit: my bad, not the giveaway, but part of an upgrade on the MLB app at the park

Gamethread to talk about game stuff Moncada at cleanup

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 28, 2017 -> 08:44 AM) BAH GAWD IS THAT STEVE AUSTIN'S MUSIC?! https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/890815543258865664 Boooooo I beat you by ten posts