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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 21, 2013 -> 09:12 AM) That's the kind of s*** that needs to be fixed instead of raising taxes on the middle/lower class. Wrong. Apple is entitled to pay no taxes. It's a basic of Obamanomics; the wealthy and politically connected pay no tax. We will simply raise taxes on people like you.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 20, 2013 -> 09:14 PM) Apple’s Web of Tax Shelters Saved It Billions, Panel Finds So what? Apple is a major bribe payer to Congress. It's all good.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 21, 2013 -> 08:44 AM) Anyone regret slashing National Weather Service budget now? Bush's fault

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 17, 2013 -> 04:58 PM) Actually I think it was one woman, Sarah hall, who just got PROMOTED to head the Obamacare dept at the IRS instead of being fired. more corruption

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 17, 2013 -> 03:49 PM) If you want me to admit that these groups receiving tax-exempt status is a huge scandal...great. It's a complete f***ing joke. It ought to be a much bigger scandal than these 501c4 confirmation delays, but that's not nearly the only scandal in our modern campaign bribery system. well i agree with that. get rid of all of them. not just ones you don't like. all of them.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 17, 2013 -> 03:46 PM) Do they just rubber stamp every group, or do they actually request enough details to make a judgment from groups that look like they might be political opponents? fixed it for you

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 17, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) My problem with calling this an enormous scandal is that I can't figure out how the IRS can legally do the job it was tasked with. I keep telling people who want to call this a scandal that I'll agree with them as soon as they explain how the IRS could do its job without breaking the law. 501©4 groups are a tax advantaged status granted by the IRS but with the caveat that the groups are not supposed to take advantage of their status to perform political activities. Their "Primary purpose" (note that term, that's what the law says) is supposed to be "Social welfare". They are allowed to spend money on electioneering, but their "Primary purpose" is supposed to be social welfare. Nobody in their right mind believes this is being enforced, because it's become almost impossible to enforce. Crossroads GPS and Priorities USA, the Rove led and Obama led super-PAC associated groups...are 501©4 groups. If you actually believe their primary purpose is anything but campaigning, I have a bridge to sell you. So we have these groups with their status completely murky. "Primary purpose" is apparently so weak that Karl Rove and Obama could drive trucks full of money through the loophole. Normally, the job of determining whether these groups are engaged in electioneering and setting rules to define "primary purpose" should not be the job of the IRS. It's the job of the Federal Elections Commission, a bipartisan group appointed by both parties in Congress supposedly to make those rules. But the FEC has been effectively neutered over the past decade. Congress could also make rules here...but Congress has shut itself down too. The Citizens United case destroyed the text of the law that defined how these groups could operate, and the FEC is a 6 member commission composed of 6 members whose terms have all expired. The FEC is able to operate and do a few things, but basically they've been shut down because the President and Congress won't act to put anyone new on it. So, the people who should be deciding those rules are refusing to do so. Now go to the IRS. These groups start petitioning the IRS for guidance on whether or not they qualify for 501©4 status after the Citizens United case, but there are literally no rules for determining whether or not they qualify. These groups are voluntarily asking the IRS for guidance (guys like Crossroads and Priorities don't need to do so, they can afford their own lawyers). The IRS can't refuse to offer guidance, but it also has zero information about how to judge whether "Tea Party Patriots for taking our country back" is a group dedicated to social welfare or is a group dedicated to electioneering. So yes, the IRS officials probably broke the law by signaling these groups out by name for additional questions...but it's happening because it should never have gotten to that point. The IRS is not the organization that should be making these rules and interpreting "primary purpose" because the IRS shouldn't be singling out specific political groups. The problem is the IRS literally has no option. They can't not offer guidance to groups asking for guidance on their tax status, but they can't single out groups that any reasonable person would say "This is a political group" and start asking whether they're political groups. Congress and the FEC should have fixed this mess a long time ago. Instead, they left it to the IRS to make a literally impossible decision - they have to pick which part of the law they need to ignore. well, if they were going after pro-Democrat organizations too that would be different. It appears they only were attacking those whom would be seen as potential political opponents. For example, I heard pro-Obama 501©4's were never hassled. So that is the real scandal here. Using the IRS to attack political opponents.

Here is the story of one of the individuals who was illegally targeted by the IRS http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/17...are-to-sue-irs/

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 17, 2013 -> 03:03 PM) Yo, good news! It's being looked into! In fact, there was an IG investigation and a DoJ investigation has already been started! FBI too! Wow! Even Congress is getting in on the act! well, just as long as the investigation isn't being conducted by the Obama regime. That's like having a mafia trial and the judge and jury are all mafia members.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 17, 2013 -> 02:55 PM) weak troll, shows minimal effort, little creativity. D+. i'm surprised you don't see why using the IRS like this is bad for the country. i just think it needs to be dealt with immediately and with appropriate consequences (jail time) for the perpetrators. ok, so maybe Obama wasn't telling them to do it, but it needs to be looked into. was anyone from the regime giving these orders to the IRS?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 17, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) HEre's the IG's report: http://www.scribd.com/doc/141606149/Inspec...pt-Applications oh so they did specifically go after organizations because they were critical of the Obama regime. a bold first step to use the IRS as a weapon against political opponents. just imagine the possibilities when taken much further.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 17, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) what the IRS was actually doing here? maybe you should educate me on the issue. so the IRS was doing nothing wrong?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 17, 2013 -> 02:37 PM) The IRS was run by a Bush appointee at the time! he needed to appease his new boss by doing his bidding.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 17, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) I think it was pretty nice of those IRS peons that didn't really know about this (but really did), held off the story until after the election. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report...ion_724711.html all jokes aside, it really is a big deal. the IRS has the power to take everything you own and put you in jail. when they are illegally going after people simply because they are not a registered Democrat, or are an organization that does not support Obama, that is a big deal.

I'm surprised we don't have an immigration reform thread yet.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 17, 2013 -> 02:28 PM) Meh, that's a GOP tactic. No way Obama was behind this. In fact, I think Bush did it. Bush's fault. no need to look any deeper.

I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but the Obama regime has been caught using the IRS to attack political opponents. This is the kind of stuff you see in third world dictatorships. Very disturbing.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 15, 2013 -> 12:34 PM) The next time you'll hear about it is when it makes one of those lists of "Funny sounding things the government is spending money researching". Pig waste always makes those lists. It's actually a major issue to deal with, but it sounds hilarious and is therefore government waste. that would be a good one to use "... and Obama wants to spend a million dollars investigating explosive poo foam! "

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 17, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) Just reverse it now since the good asians and bad asians are flip-flopped! i was thinking the same thing

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 10, 2013 -> 02:00 PM) From Time, 1941: very interesting

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 17, 2013 -> 09:38 AM) So now the Congressional Republicans are straight-up lying about #BENGHAZI #neverforget, not just spinning nonsense theory after nonsense theory. edit: I DEMAND Congressional investigations into who "leaked" fabricated emails to the press in order to spread lies about the Administration. Four Americans DIED and these people are just lyinG!!!!!!!!!1 Hillary just needs to admit she was not good at her job and then we can all move on from this. The bigger scandal is the IRS scandal.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 17, 2013 -> 09:21 AM) Lemmings work together to jump off cliffs ^^^ the perfect mascot for a software project.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 16, 2013 -> 10:05 AM) Well, you don't want the fat girls to feel ashamed/embarrassed/self-conscious about THEIR dresses. exactly. all dresses should be identical in appearance.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 17, 2013 -> 09:29 AM) Soxtalk was considering sexy-ing up the Mr Genius profile, but due to an overwhelming negative response and the fact that it is scientifically impossible, decided against it. you have offended me. apologize.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 14, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) Not nearly to the same extent women are. Damn near every woman in the public sphere has her looks commented on and brought up as a legitimate topic of discussion and that simply doesn't hold true for men. lol. that's not true. do actually work with any women? they talk about what male co-workers look like all the time and judge them on their looks. for someone reason i think it's ingrained in our DNA somehow, both sexes judge the other strongly on looks. it is what it is. even i judge people on looks and i'm a genius.