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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 07:48 PM) Doesn't mean they're wrong. They are wrong. A decade ago they predicted that mass outsourcing and increased immigration would have lead to massive job creation. At the end of decade we have actually had negative job growth. They also support removing a whole lot of labor laws; definitely no minimum wage or government regulated safe working conditions. The CATO institute is wrong way more than they are correct.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 07:38 PM) New report from the right-wing CATO institute finds there's about a $180 billion benefit to the economy over 10 years to some form of legalization of illegal immigrants, while conversely there's an $80 billion or so cost for doing nothing. The CATO institute is pro-Immigration at all levels. They are total free traders, no borders, no regulation. They basically support anarchy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) Not going to turn this into an economic thread, but the debt grew by over $1 trillion last year. It's going to be $4 trillion this year? That seems like a lot. Is Goldman in trouble again? Poor Goldman Sachs. If they need a few more trillion I think we should wire the money directly into Lloyd Blankfein's personal bank account. I wouldn't want them to have any undue hardships. As far as the deficit; it's already at 1.8 trillion for this year (double from the record). It will keep going up with constant spending and sinking revenue.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 14, 2009 -> 05:12 PM) Idaho only produces 28% of U.S. potatoes. Washington produces 21%. Knightni, what do you think about my idea of selling Hawaii? I think it's a winner.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 06:39 PM) Basically...if you want to make that argument, give me some reasoning. I can give you reasons why I believe the republicans suck on the economy. Their zeal for deregulation lets business run wild, and that has helped get us the 2002 and 2008 messes. Bill Clinton was a Democrat. He was pro-outsourcing, embraced the economic race to the bottom (a few trillionaires with billions of peasants), did a whole lot of deregulation, ect. His economy was a complete bubble, which burst. He basically did everything that idiot Greenspan told him to do on the economy. What we got was an unsustainable mess that has now created a situation where there is long term massive unemployment; the US is becoming an economic has been. We don't innovate, we can't produce, we have an economy based around paper pushing and bailouts. The truth is both Clinton and GW Bush were total disasters. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plummeting_taxes Fed tax revenue is crashing, but we are still wasting money. The deficit this year is going to be 4 times higher than the previous record.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2009 -> 04:13 PM) Rick Perlstein makes the case for why it really is different now...it's not that the crazy hasn't been there in the past, it's that right now there's a group of people in the media who are explicitly promoting the crazy. I like the author's over the top Self-righteousness: reminds me of a George Clooney acceptance speech. Good stuff.

lol i love how the Democrats are s***ting their pants when right wing protesters do the exact same thing they did for the past 8 years. exaggerations, nazi symbols, yelling, screaming, out of control conspiracy theories with no base in reality. recursion. you wrote the this algorithm you should have known it's nature.

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QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 08:31 PM) its funny you mention that.. i've thought of that idea a few times (not selling Hawaii but selling other territories) check out the list.. Unincorporated organized territories Guam Northern Mariana Islands (commonwealth) Puerto Rico (commonwealth) United States Virgin Islands Unincorporated unorganized territories American Samoa, technically unorganized, but self-governing under a constitution last revised in 1967 Baker Island, uninhabited Howland Island, uninhabited Jarvis Island, uninhabited Johnston Atoll, uninhabited Kingman Reef, uninhabited Bajo Nuevo Bank, uninhabited (claimed by Jamaica and several other Central American countries) Serranilla Bank, uninhabited (claimed by Colombia) Midway Islands, uninhabited, currently included in the Midway Atoll National Wildlife Refuge Navassa Island, uninhabited (claimed by Haiti) Wake Atoll consisting of Peale, Wake and Wilkes Islands[4], no indigenous inhabitants, only contractor personnel (claimed by the Marshall Islands) f*** it, sell those too. we don't need em

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 09:22 PM) Done. YES!!

QUOTE (Tex @ Aug 12, 2009 -> 12:17 AM) Actually Hawaii and all the territories. I wonder how much we could get for them? Seriously, when was the last time a territory, state, or country was sold? Imagine today picking up the Louisianan Territory. Let's pay for health care by selling Hawaii! sell Hawaii and pay off the national debt.

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/08/13...e-evil-mongers/

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 12, 2009 -> 12:14 PM) Exhibit A of why I hate populist movements. The knowledge base behind them is about ankle deep. just like the Democrat and GOP base. Whatever Talking Point memo or Matt Drudge reports on turns into a big b**** fest between the groups.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 07:35 PM) We are going to have a similar kind of argument when it comes time to try immigration reform. oh man. i might actually join the tea party crew for that one.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 07:23 PM) I thought it was funny how they were talking about how awful government health care coverage will be while also talking about how great seniors' Medicare coverage is. yea, that sounds like a fairly unusual conclusion to reach. Seniors think that some of their government coverage will be reduced to pay for younger uninsured’s .

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 05:42 PM) Your response is "our side is completely innocent and it's all those evil union-doers!". I've stated repeatedly a bunch of the tea party guys are loud, disruptive, and annoying. But so far they've managed to refrain from attacking people.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 05:42 PM) And so have your folks. I don't know anyone that is even going to these town halls. lol

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 05:21 PM) And I'm sure that smiley is using more violence than the teabaggers too. You're in total denial. The evidence is overwhelming. You just can't admit that the ‘tea party' activists are merely being loud and annoying. The SEIU have been captured on tape repeatedly using violence to silence dissent.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 05:06 PM) And like we've said repeatedly, thinking that it's only those evil unioners driving violence here is just a joke. the SEIU are the only ones using violence to get what they want.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 9, 2009 -> 04:59 PM) No...point being that the current system screws even the people who think the government is the worst thing eva. You can beat the crap out of me if it gets me a universal health care system. I support some type of public option.

Point being that if you don't health insurance be prepared to be punched in the face, knocked to the ground, and kicked repeatedly by SEIU goons. got it.

... f***

another example of a stampeding SEIU dignitary going on a rampage originally held back but breaks free!