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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 12:08 PM) You asked "I wonder why" and he told you, his answer was 100% accurate. It became a story when Matt Drudge made it a story, before that it was just local news. What Democrats feel about Drudge has 0 relevance here. actually it wasn't a story until it was a proven hoax. if it was real it would have been ignored by most of the media, Drudge or not. the reason it was front page news all of a sudden was because it was a story to make the McCain campaign look bad.

QUOTE (Cknolls @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 10:20 AM) Barney Frank's latest nonsense: WASHINGTON (AP) — A Key Democrat says a House auto industry bailout would require that U.S. automakers immediately repay $25 billion in government loans next year if they can't show they're financially viable. and with what money are they going to pay it back with, Barney? this guy is a complete joke.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:52 AM) We apply that label, but really it is the same as hijacking planes, stealing cargos, car jacking, kidnapping, etc. so were old tyme pirates.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:47 AM) So in your eyes a story that apparently involved a racial hate crime and theft was not headline worthy but a group of gays throwing pink glitter and condoms at a church should be a major breaking story? the story wouldn't have got any headlines if it was true. not nearly pro-Democrat enough. could make Obama supporters look bad. don't want that. where was the hate crime anyways? even if true i don't think scrapping a 'B' in someones cheek because they had a McCain bumper sticker would have been a hate crime. a battery crime yes.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:47 AM) The U.N. would then need other nations to give control over their navies to the international body. I'm not sure how many other nations would go along with that. well, looks like no UN to the rescue then. kind of crazy how being a pirate is profitable again. yarr

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:43 AM) And if I recall, pro-GOP Matt Drudge was the only one that made that story a top headline at first as he tried to make news that wasn't really there. It became front page news everywhere else when it turned out to be all staged. oh that evil matt drudge. i hope you guys can figure out a way to shut him down, he's just downright not pro-democrat enough. i wish the media was only pro-democrat infomercials like MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, and Dailykos. a perfect world.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) The pro-gay media. remember, only Republicans are bad. everythign else = good. so of course 'B' lady deserved all those headlines.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 11:34 AM) Just like the girl with the scratched "B" on her cheek did not represent all republican voters, these 20 or so people do not represent the millions of gays across the country. yet the 'B' lady was front page news and these protestors get no media coverage. i wonder why

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 08:23 AM) ... should the US ships, already in the region, act? If so, in what way and in what scale? Is it better to wait them out, against the risk of the ship and crews being destroyed or killed? Just curious of people's thoughts on this topic. no the US shouldn't unless these are US ships getting ganked. maybe the UN can setup a anti-pirate fighting force, this is something they could do.

Here we go with this again

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 09:27 AM) I smell a hoax. haha maybe like the 'Iron my shirt!' guy from that Hillary Clinton town hall meeting. if those are real protestors (which it wouldn't surprise me if they were) their protest certainly would have the same level of integrity as some radio shock jock publicity stunt.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 11:13 PM) So to protest Prop 8 passing in California, a michigan militant group decided to invade a michigan church, throw condoms, pink glitter, and have an upside down pink cross screaming Jesus is Gay. You want to make sure that things like prop 8 pass everytime, attack churches and put up anarchists websites that make you look like a islamic terrorist. An organized effort to attack churches is not going to go over well. Church desecration haha what a bunch of idiots. Fred Phelps is gonna be pissed, some people are challenging his group for the title of biggest doucebags in the United States.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) I'm starting to believe more and more that bankruptcy is the best for GM's long-term viability but that would f*** the workers over in the short term. They (GM) need to be slapped around a bit, it's just that it's everyday people who'd have to pay the price. One thing those everday workers need to realize is that they are going to have to make concessions on their union contracts. The unions along with upper management pushed for the bad direction of product lines and unrealistic employee payment plans. I see no way that this economic situation is going to be fixed with endless bailouts.

This automaker bailout is complete fail. It fixes nothing, they aren't competitive in the world market. They need major restructuring. Their union deals are bad, their product line direction has been horrible, and another 26 billion will just hold them over until they come back for more bailout money. Unfortunately, they will eventually get their bailout, as the labor unions paid about 80 million in bribes to the Democrats this past election.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 03:03 PM) Not sure where else to post this but it's an interesting read: Are you an idiot to keep paying your mortgage? haha, thats pretty good.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 10:44 AM) I threw her under the bus - which is where she belongs, politically speaking. And that has nothing to do with rumors - it was her behavior and words, right in front of my eyes. Hey, you guys can't throw her under the bus, you're Democrats. Don't worry, I threw her under a while ago. It had to be done.

QUOTE (Steff @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 10:28 PM) If I didn't like them I would do just that. And you don't have to leave. But if you don't then I don't understand why you would question those who are simply responding to what you keep posting. It's circular for you because nothing new is being brought to the table. Someone responded to a post of mine, questioning why I had a certain view. Basically I answered, and amazingly enough I still had the same reason as before. Funny how that works. Actually, almost all my posts are responses to someone whom had quoted me.

QUOTE (Steff @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 10:13 PM) But yet you keep coming in here stating your position over and over again. Honestly, if you're so against it, and we've all read it and got it, then why not just pass over the thread and not continue to disrupt constructive conversation amongst others on the topic? There is an ignore option if you don't like my posts. But I'll leave the thread, I have made my point, you are correct.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 10:02 PM) The simple skill of showing up when you are suppose to, completing a task, keeping track of the time you helped, are all excellent job skills that believe it or not, are lacking in many entry level employees. Well we certainly have set the bar embarasingly low. That is the important lesson learned for 4 grand? This program just gets worse in my eyes the more reasons I get for it's implementation. What if they show up late, slack and get the grant, what does that teach them? Maybe that they need to join a government union. HEYO! Maybe working for $40 an hour to do government approved charity work is teaching them valuable life lessons they'll need as a Democrat. I withdraw my concerns. (now I am just messing with you)

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 09:53 PM) What lesson are we teaching that "this financial aid checkis a government assistance program, and we will defend you against anyone who wants you to work for it"? Our government is designed to hand you things and you will not have to work for it. Perhaps the biggest lesson is that there are no free lunches. That you will have to give something back. We all have time, talent, and treasure. Asking for a little service seems like a great lesson in starting to get people to not look for free handouts from the government. I thought I was the bleeding heart liberal around here, this seems surreal. I understand the concern about the government deciding what qualifies. There are some serious traps in how it gets rolled out. Allowing the choice of working at any 401©3 leaves the opening for a LDS Prop 8 type work and that, quite frankly, would piss me off. But then having some government agency approve programs for this also has some dangers. What are we teaching them? Scholastics sure aren't it. Get that down then go with your cutesy explanation for adding this extra service. Since when have you ever been against a handout? this a first for you on the board.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 09:16 PM) I'd never believe in an invisible man in the clouds. That's pretty silly. Just on a side note, the argument that only stupid people believe in God is actually quite false. Unless of course the likes of Albert Einstein, Steven Hawkings, and Wernser Heisenberg are all dumb. But of course science and religion should not be taught as one.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 08:46 PM) I really don't understand how better access to education and increased community service "accomplishes nothing." There's already enough extra stuff students can do, the service requirement is not necessary. I think these schools need to concentrate on education judging from our national test scores. It's a dumb idea to be adding this stuff. Get the basics down first then try to convince me about this extra stuff. There are already plenty of extra curricular activities that students can do to build character. And honestly, I've already stated all this before in the thread. I don't see why this needs to be so circular.

QUOTE (sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 08:00 PM) I'm sure a poster that read "why be gay? chicks are hot" would be embraced by the gay community. that would be funny too. i don't see that or the 'why believe in God?' as offensive. but i'm not a good baramoter for what is offensive or not.

QUOTE (sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) Link I get it, anyone can spread their message... but "why believe in god? be good for goodness sake" is just offensive for the sake of grabbing headlines. if these signs just said "be good for goodness sake" no one would care = no one would bother to be interested with this organization. This is the same thing as the "God Hates f**s" people. well, if you think thats bad, i just saw a clip of protestors at a mormon church or something and the basically attacked an old lady grabbing a cross out of her hand and smashing it all jumping on it and going crazy. those protestors are definitely getting into the Fred Phelps category.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 12, 2008 -> 07:05 PM) I'd suggest our need for GI's is, at best, on par with a need to have a population better educated and better able to be closer to the leading edge in the global business world. And I am not sure what your last sentence means. I'm fine with educational acheivement grant awards. I've actually suggested, more than once in this thread, that an educational alternative should be a choice for students (which they may chose instead of charity work) if we must have this program.