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QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:40 PM) I am sitting here trying to understand the logic If you are a company where the public will never see your employees, blow dolls with bats in the butts is bad. If you are a company where this will be publicized all over the world, which spends millions marketing to families and young kids, it's ok? This may be the first time Sox fans have really surprised me. To defend that kind of image for our team just doesn't make sense. Tex. It's an argument we won't win. I gave up the fight this AM because it's obvious too many on this board just see it as antics and nothing worse. I'll on the other hand continue to be disappointed that this crap is happening with my favorite professional sports franchise. This looped with Ozzie's latest barrage have me very saddened.

Yet he continues to have a job. There's SOMETHING he's not doing. He needs to go. It's been the writing on the wall for the last few years (since mid 2006). Whatever he's doing isn't working. It's time for a change. Why is this organization once again hopelessly sticking by him?

The new freely downloadable album from NIN (at their website) is actually quite good. Nice to see it's an industrial creation. Pretty cool.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) Rotoworld is saying that a Bulls D'Antoni hiring is "imminent", referring to an ESPN piece. I expected changes, but I was thinking more along the lines of personnel. I wasn't thinking they'd do a complete 180 in terms of the team philosophy. I have a hard time seeing how this will work with the Bulls roster, but it will be interesting, anyway. Well, that report says it's imminent, but on the radio they say the Bulls contract offer was such a lowball that D'Antoni very well could be headed to the Knicks.

Badger. It's because they are all power tripping and feel they are above the law. Just have to pray you don't get in their way sometimes.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:38 AM) So cut off access to the media. No interviews, stop advertising. Why not promote the image of the franchise as perverted guys f***ing sex dolls with objects. what could be wrong with that? If there really is nothing wrong with it, why not build an advertising campaign around it. Perhaps the official sex doll of the Sox? Bring a doll and have it autographed by a sox player? These are grown men, the face of an organization worth hundreds of millions of dollars. They are working for an organization that spends millions on advertising to promote an image. In a league that spends many more that to promote baseball as America's Sport. Fun for the whole family. If y'all can't see where this stunt is just plain wrong, I can only say that most of the adults on the board realize it and I suspect as y'all spend a few more years on this planet, your opinions will change. As usual, excellent post.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:05 AM) It'd be like me calling you some limp wristed Clay Aiken fan because you care about the feelings of women with a simple prank in a profession where it's hardly unexpected. What're you talking about? Obviously this dude is just plain awesome! He likes football! And sorry, the yeehaw's wasn't what I think anyone who disagrees with me is like. It's what I think outsider's perceptions of Sox fans might become, which would group me into it.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:17 AM) If Steve fails, I got next. I shall not fail us.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:49 AM) So as not to offend anyone-equal opportunity slump buster How does a woman get any satisfaction out of that? I don't think this is equal opportunity. That's just a tranny trying to look like a guy. OBVIOUSLY.

QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:54 AM) and prefers christian bale instead of val kilmer in batman movies. There's nothing offensive about that...

YEEHAWW! Them Sox sure is funny! They likes ta cuss, they likes ta put bats 'n dolls. Gosh dern wimin in thir complainin'! Where's mah rifle? YEEHAWW!

QUOTE (Brian @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:19 AM) I heard that Foley took the Wolves job to stick around Chicago just in case something like this happened. I'd guess Foley returns. Yeah, good point. He was offered the Colorado job but declined so that seems like good reasoning.

QUOTE (juddling @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:23 AM) Mully and Handley are talking about this now on the Score. Couple of interesting point they brought up....first was that about 30 reporters saw the display but only 6 chose to write about it. Apparently not everyone thought it was such a big deal. Of course not. The issue that is if JUST ONE thinks it's a big deal then it's a big deal.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:09 AM) If that happens on a mass-scale obviously its a problem. It'd be impossible to stop it, as anyone can sneak one and inflate it in a bathroom. You'd just have to assume it wouldn't be on ongoing problem involving thousands of people. Wow, so you actually admit that it could be a problem when the post before you said it won't.

QUOTE (YASNY @ May 6, 2008 -> 10:02 AM) Put yourself in this place ... You go pick up your morning paper or hear this on the radio driving your 7 year old kid to school and you hear ... Daddy, what's a blow up doll? What did they do with the bat? ... Sorry, but like Slezak said, the boys will be boys thing doesn't excuse this. It's classless, tasteless, vulgar. It's an embarrassment to the organization and I won't be the only Sox fan that finds this personally embarrasing. ding ding ding...

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:56 AM) Also, this in no way affects the family atmosphere at the Cell. One doll alone cannot do it. Unless these displays of affection somehow find their way out of the clubhouse and into the stands You mean by fans possibly sneaking blow up dolls into the stadium to blow up and display... something that's already been suggested in this very thread. It's going to happen.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 5, 2008 -> 10:34 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=ApQ....p&type=lgns This guy any good? He can't hurt. Seems to have performed well in an offensive league.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ May 6, 2008 -> 06:49 AM) That would be AWESOME! Agreed.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) Blackhawks told Dan Kelly his services are no longer needed. Pat Foley back??? Check the Sun-Times. Either they are going to bring Foley back or Wiedeman will do both/be promoted to television.

QUOTE (vandy125 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) I see the whole thing as kind of a frat type of incident, but one thing I wonder is the men's lockerroom of a baseball team really a reporter's workplace? If you are going to subject that to those types of considerations, then you need to do that for every place a reporter goes to get information on a story. A reporter in Iraq isn't going to think , "goodness, they really need to make this workplace better for me." Get over it. You are writing stories from a men's locker room. You should have some sort of understanding of what that environment is like. Mannnn, you did not just compare a baseball locker room to Iraq. There's so many reasons that's ridiculous.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:38 AM) If an employee of a company pulled a prank that was offensive to a large portion of their customers, they would be reprimanded, not defended. This is a workplace, no amount of money, fame, or power removes them from workplace laws. The $10,000,000 earning CEO of a major corporation can't put up porn in his office and say f*** the b****es that can't take a joke. And neither should professional athletes. Why is it too much to ask grown men to act like adults? Post of the millenium.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:33 AM) It's their locker room, if they want to do stupid s*** like this they should be able to. The bad judgement was not removing the dolls before the reporters were allowed in. No s*** Sherlock.

QUOTE (shipps @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:36 AM) I havent read through this whole thread because its such a stupid story.Its not far fetched to assume Swisher was probably behind all this,I hope that Iam not the only one who finds his whole act old right now.He is not even funny,his energy might be good for the clubhouse but he needs to tone it down a notch on the immaturity. Or start getting hits.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:28 AM) Manufactured outrage. Call it what you want. If the Yankees did this Steinbrenner would be outraged. But that's just a classy organization. We're the dirty Sox with our foul mouthed manager making a joke out of the franchise. The inmates are running the asylum.