Bmr31

umm hey..can you tone it down a bit missy.. my virgin ears and eyes cant stand seeing and hearing this kind of talk........thank you ......... Yeah your ears are about the only part of you thats virgin......

Change is good unless it destroys lives, society, and the way of life. Being gay does all 3, no matter how much you or anyone else wants to deny it. I dont have a problem with one individual person being gay, but youre never going to get me to think or say its ok to be gay, because it is not.

If youre offended im sorry, but its the truth, and you know it.

Whether Mulder is a great pitcher or not, has nothing to do with the sox weak offense.

LOL the way things are going, this may end up being the longest thread, in thread history!!!!!

If gay people would stop thinking of themselves for a moment and think of society in general, they may see things differently. I dont want to hear about hating, because i hate noone. I think its totally fine to be gay, if you keep it behind closed doors. However, when bringing attention to it, like so many do, you are just disrupting society and the norms of human existence. If you dont see that, youre extemely selfish. In fact, studies have been done, and gay men have VERY low self esteems. The reason behind that is they realize what they are doing isnt "normal". If thats the case, dont flaunt it! If you are in a clubhouse with 24 straight men, the wise thing to do is keep it to yourself.

that's not the question. The question is does the person who is gay have to hide - because of fear. Yes?

I don't give him any credit - bigotry is not something that I consider a virtue or triumph over "anti p c" - it is just simple double standard bigotry, and as you say, baggio, he is probably repeating the same s*** he has heard all his life. When do we break the cycle though? How? How do stop making it acceptable to be anti-gay? Baggio, if the whole world had your attitudes it would be a much better place. There have been gay athletes in sports from day one. It remains hidden because of the hetero jock macho atmosphere and the hatred that is still out there. The first out player will have to be a Jackie Robinson who can put up with great verbal abuse from other players, and bigoted fans. And meanwhile gay teens have high suicide rates and drinking and drug absue problems because they strughgle with who they are in a society that condemns. It is unaccetable to me any longer to accept these statements by Jones because it reinforces something very negative. It is ok to be gay. It is not ok to be a bigot. It is NOT okay to be gay. It sets horrible example for children and it disrupts the main reason you are on earth, which is to create. With your outlook on things, in a few short years, its going to be okay to kill.

a gay guy can have a date as long as the rest of society doesnt have to see it or hear about it.

Well maybe, yeah. But all i read all preseason is how great this sox team is and how powerful the lineup is............like ive said 100 times, its an 85 win team.

This is an average offense. I think some of you just overrate this offense.

Id take you over Jerry Manuel in a second. I assume youd be interested in winning.

Manager.

Okay this is weird, cuz i cant STAND Frank Thomas, but i am going to defend him. Frank takes a lot of heat for NEVER swinging at the first pitch. As soon as he does, we jump all over him?

Yeah except we lost ground to the only team who really counts. The Twins.

but he makes up for it with sheer talent, energy, and heart! baggio is a good guy, shouldn't be rapping on him, serioudly, but what the hell - sorry bud! hey no problem c -dub..i can use the laugh after tonight Phew, for a minute there I thought i was gonna have to put Baggio up on the couch.........

lol nah im old, i graduated in 89. One of my best friends lived in GR for years, he lives in some Detroit suburb now. I remember being able to drink 5 cent beers on campus..........ahhh the good ol days lol.

CMON RAY!!!

Hey what part of Michigan? I used to live in Battle Creek and i graduated from WMU.

I mean, seriously, could WSI ever be this creative with a thread name, and thread? GO SOXNET!!

This baseball night could improve greatly if the Giants can come back and win this game.

s*** I thought Larry Bird died for a minute...........

only buy him one or he follows you home! Man I have never seen Baggio but i dunno if i wanna let him follow me home. Im guessing hed make only ugly woman.