Steff

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) Care to explain how. I think I've been quite logical in all of what I've said. C'mon Boz.. we all know how you feel about him. That would be like me posting over and over and over again how I feel about Willie. Once, twice, or even 57 times like you've done today is good enough..

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:19 PM) Whats weird is Frank has had a lot of White Sox fan detractors over the years, but he seems to be like a little brother to some. Its alright if you call him an asshole, but if someone else does you have a problem with it. Who's having a problem with someone calling him an asshole..? He sure can be one. I thought this was about cheering him when/if he returns to play a game here...?

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) Wait, he played this past year? Oh yea, then he got hurt, again. Wait, it was the White Sox fault, he came back too early to help the team. Yea, I really believe that. Just stop. You're making an ass of yourself.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:13 PM) See i don't even think the stats should really matter, that's just me. Because if it were another player who did less, people would be flaming him and no one would be supporting him. But since he was a good player, he gets a pass? It's a double standard. It's what his fans want to do. I don't see the logic in debating it. Agree to disagree.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:07 PM) It makes no difference what he did on the field (which hasn't been anything for a while). You should be evaluating this without statistics to remove bias. GMAFB... did you cheer when he played this year...? If you did... why? If you would have evaluated his stats he clearly didn't deserve it... :rolly

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:08 PM) No one's supported Frank here? All i did was state my opinion, as has everyone else. Of course they have... They stated their case and got told to check the stats, consider his attitude, etc, etc... As I just told you via email, fans cheering him - as well as any other player who's left here is their way of saying thanks. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. If Kenny has a problem with that then he needs to grow a pair.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:06 PM) Not true about me. I've said atleast 600 times that Frank is no angel. And I stand right next to you screaming it...

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) Can't those who don't want to be able to do what they want without being told Frank is Jesus? Who the hell is telling you such a thing...?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:01 PM) But you aren't saying JR didn't call, right? Frank says in the Arvia interview that Jerry left a message a week after things "blew up". I don't see what difference this makes, anyway. After Frank was signed with Oakland. Jerry didn't call Frank previous to that. IMO, he should have.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 04:00 PM) Everyone BOW down in front of the great Frank Thomas. You Thomas slurpers are comical. Maybe someone should start frankthomastalk.com You are getting on my last nerve today...

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:53 PM) Should you be separating on the field and off the field actions? If it concerns the organization, i'd say no. If he's in trouble with the law, that's diff IMO. Alright how bout this one, completely made up scenario. You find out Frank was betting on baseball. Separate on and off field stuff? I'm just trying to hit on an overall thing here. It's a battle between frank and the organization at this point, not frank and random off the field stuff. Can't those who want to cheer just be able to without being told 5000 reasons why not to...?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) JR did call, Frank didn't answer, JR left a message. Does Frank answer his phone? I know a few people, my wife especially, who never answer their phone. If you have something that needs to be said you have to leave a message. What are they supposed to do, tell Konerko they can't announce his signing for a few weeks until they may be able to talk to Frank? For all we know they may have tried to contact him more than once. Kenny called. Jerry and him last spoke at his wedding, and have not spoken since.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:52 PM) How many times did Bengie Molina say those things? Was it repeatedly? Frank Thomas started throwing the s***, KW finally answered back, and now Thomas is the bigger man because he's not going to respond. Frank kept his comments to the job... he didn't stoop down to scooping personal s***. Wonder how Kenny would feel if his dirty laundry was washed on the 7pm news...

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:48 PM) he probably had cash obligations with his divorce and all that. do players get paid weekly, monthly, or yearly? Twice a month.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:48 PM) It's common knowledge, although KW still shouldn't have said it. Nonetheless, KW never makes any comments if Frank would have just taken his parting gifts (holding the trophy at the parade and throwing out the first playoff pitch) and left quietly. Then why the s***ty comment.. "the truth hurts"..? For those that don't know, Jerry advanced him 2 years of salary - thus not really a "loan" - but again.. who the hell does Kenny think he is running his fat mouth about that s***. Ugh.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:47 PM) God I love you Steff. That's all I'm saying. But I'm just "slurping" Frank according to some people. Oh you know how it is.. some people just have to b****ing and moaning or they aren't happy.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) Sometimes the truth hurts. Sounds like the Big Hurt was hurting for money. And... how is that any of the rest of the world's business..? Sweet geezus.. I can not wait to get down to Arizona...

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:42 PM) Seriously, I think it's unrealistic for him to expect that. He was still, I bet, a backup plan, maybe #3 or 4, but they didn't want to tell him they wouldn't need him till they were absolutely sure. But what drama... Given the relationship between him and Jerry.. IMO.. Jerry should have called. A message from Kenny saying "Yo Dog.. thanks for the memories.. see yaaa" was s***ty.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:41 PM) Bummer. He let you all down. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2347023 "Jerry has done everything over the course of 16 years to protect that man, to make accommodations for him, concessions for him. He loaned him money, at times, when he needed money," Williams said. What a jag.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:31 PM) Uh oh.... Do you have two other pets???? How do you do that...?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:36 PM) Dick beat me to it. I was going to say that the more I think about it, the more I feel Frank will never play another game in Chicago. He probably won't be back in time for the series in May. I'm not sure if they come here again later, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's already hurt by whatever that time is. Someone said this back in December...

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) I think the next time you see Frank at USCF is when his number is retired. Naaa.. Jerry will have him in his box for the playoffs in October.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 03:19 PM) For those of you who say you will give a standing ovation to Frank when he comes back, i believe you are putting a player, Frank, in front of the organization that you are supposed to be a fan of. Sure Frank did a ton for this franchise. However, he just trashed this organization left and right. I'd say that a standing ovation is a slap in the face to this organization because you are putting a player in front of the organization - something i think should never happen, and especially not in this case. What will KW and everyone else be thinking when there is a standing ovation for him? If i'm KW, i'm pissed. There's no middle ground here. Maybe some people think i'm out of line, but so be it. Personally, i'll just sit there and do nothing. Oye, oye, oye... a tad bit over-dramatic don't ya think...?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Feb 27, 2006 -> 08:21 AM) Bye-bye Brando. You should let him back in...

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