Steff

QUOTE(Soxy @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) My mom had both my sister and I without any pain meds. By the end they had to strap her down so she wouldn't hurt my dad, but you know, she did it. . . My mom had my brother without any drugs - he was 2 weeks early, skinny as a rail but nearly 24 inches long!!

Alright.. time out kids.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:35 AM) P.S. I am very snark-y today Meow.. hiss.. hiss..

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) O.K. I'll go along with you there. No big deal. You mis-read, and I'm glad you stated as much so I could clear it up.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) O.K., let's look again: I apologize...your daughter in law. Can you actually say it doesn't read like I figure it does? YOu are saying the pit's were safe, and the beagle dangerous. Correct? No. I said any dog can attack.. followed by an example of a commonly thought "safe" breed attacking. I've never owned a pit bull so I wouldn't dare attempt to make a comparison.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) Clearly that is not. Your comment made it sound like the beagle your sister owns is more dangerous than the pits you have known. I would still rather take my chances with your sisters beagle than your mom's pit's anyday of the week. That's not at all what I posted or even hinted to. Also, my sister doesn't own a Beagle.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) Most beagles are pretty mean dogs...I'm not a big fan of those scrappy things... They brought it over to our house for a bbq once.. the damn thing kept jumping up on the table. No manners. Our dogs don't even come near the table when there is food on it. They've been banned from our house.

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 11:12 AM) But you can't deny certain dogs are more likely to "go off", and that certain dogs are MUCH more dangerous is they do. I'd MUCH rather run into a wild beagle or cocker spaniel than a wild pit bull. To think that a cocker or a dachsund is just as dangerous as a pit or a rottwieler is just silly. Clearly that's what I was incinuating.

To add.. my sisters mother in law has had pits all her life. My brother in law grew up with at least a dozen of them. Never an issue. Luck of the draw. Any dog will attack, IMO. Hell.. my daughter in law has a beagle that's attacked her twice!! Can't wait till she brings home the new baby in a month. :headshake

I didn't see a woman. 2 men, one of which was the man who got bit while trying to help the kids.

Pitocen is a life saver to women who have a stubborn bun in the oven. It comes with it's own risks.. but between that and having to have a c-section.. I'd take the drip. My sister had an epidural and loved it.

The neighbors on the news this morning said the complete opposite in this situation mercy (although I will agree I've heard those lines used several times in the past couple years pertaining to these dogs). Oddly, it's been stated by several of the neighbors that these were "good" dogs that just "turned". A common trait of this breed as documented. These dogs also had tags, regular visits to the vet, etc.. Never showed previous signs of aggression - another trait I've read. A shame.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5160304/detai...00405&qs=1;bp=t Baby Nearly Starves After Being Left Alone 3 Weeks 20-Year-Old Mother Is Behind Bars COVINGTON, Ohio -- Police said a 7-month-old baby was nearly starved to death by his own mother, WLWT-TV in Cincinnati reported. The mother, 20-year-old Ashley Traylor, left the boy alone for up to three weeks without food, police said. She is in jail, charged with criminal abuse, and the baby is at Children's Hospital in fair condition. A suspicious neighbor saved the boy by entering Traylor's apartment when she was gone, the station reported. "His face was all sunk in like he'd been starving in there," said Antonio Farmer, who discovered the baby. The baby was barely conscious, wearing a filthy diaper, police said. "He couldn't have weighed more than 5 or 10 pounds. He didn't have enough energy to cry," Farmer said. Another neighbor said Traylor once told her "she didn't want the baby, she was going to throw him in the river." Other residents in Traylor's apartment building said she tried to cover up the abuse by lying to them. They said they saw Traylor with her 3-year-old girl, but the baby was nowhere in sight. "I asked her several times where the baby was and she kept saying, 'with a baby-sitter,'" a neighbor said. "It kind of makes me mad at myself because I always had a small suspicion and I never acted on it." But Farmer acted on his before it was too late. "She was basically taking his chance of life from him. I don't think they should let her out," Farmer said. Traylor's little girl is with a foster family, a neighbor said. The baby will likely end up in a foster home, too. Traylor is set to become a mother again. She is four months pregnant, neighbors said. Oh joy.. :headshake

http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1209672&page=1 Oct. 13, 2005 — A Wisconsin man is facing child abuse charges for allegedly shocking his 8-year-old stepdaughter with an electric dog collar because she was eating her breakfast too slowly. Gerald Majeres, 34, is sitting in a jail in Jackson, Wis., charged with felony child abuse, after police say he attached an electric dog collar to his stepdaughter's leg and shocked her because he and the girl's biological mother thought she was not eating her breakfast fast enough. On Oct. 10, police told ABC News affiliate WISN-TV in Milwaukee that the girl's mother threatened to wake up Majeres if she did not eat her breakfast faster. Ultimately, she woke up Majeres, police said, and he brought out and used the electric collar. His arrest came after an employee at the girl's elementary school noticed marks on the girl's thigh and contacted police and social services. According to the criminal complaint against Majeres, the girl told investigators that her stepfather put the shock collar – which he normally used on the family dog – on her leg. Using a remote control, Majeres allegedly set the collar to level "4" and zapped the girl. The girl, investigators say, told them that her stepfather said she was lucky he did not set the collar to "6," a level he uses for the dog, and that he threatened to shoot her pet rabbit while she was at school because she does not take care of it. Mom Calls Daughter a 'Chronic Liar' According to the complaint, the girl said the shock caused her to cry "a lot because it hurt a lot," and that Majeres threatened to continue to put the shock collar on her every morning "so that she gets done faster" with breakfast. Police and social services officials say that when they came to the girl's home and confronted her mother, she immediately asked them if their visit was about "her chronic liar daughter." Majeres, police said, initially denied using the shock collar on his stepdaughter but then said he might have accidentally zapped her. According to the complaint, Majeres eventually told police he used the collar to "calm down" his stepdaughter. More at link above.

Anyone else and CPS would be right in the middle of this mess. Not that I defend her selling her children.. but she knew what she was getting into with that freak. Regardless, I feel bad for the children as they are going to be screwed up all their lives. http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/360658p-307259c.html No kid gloves for Jacko's ex BY MICHELLE CARUSO DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF LOS ANGELES - Michael Jackson's ex-wife, Debbie Rowe, went to bat for the pop star at his child molestation trial, but he played hardball with her in their recent child visitation deal, the Daily News has learned. The top-secret agreement allows Rowe, whose gushing testimony last April helped save Jackson's neck, only sporadic visits with Prince Michael 1st, 8, and Paris, 7, and she can't even tell the tykes she's their mom, sources said. "Debbie is not supposed to tell the kids she is their mother. That topic is off-limits. But it will be revisited when they are older," said a source familiar with the temporary, court-supervised plan. The ex-dermatologist's aide, who divorced Jackson in 1999, was secretly reunited with her kids - after almost five years without contact - in August in an L.A. hotel room. "They handled it fine, but were a bit bewildered," one source said. The children's hard-nosed nanny, Grace Rwaramba, took the kids to the sitdown while Jackson remained in Bahrain in the Middle East, holed up in the royal palace. "Grace runs the show. She's the one Debbie will have to deal with," said another source close to the Jackson family. Jackson still has full custody of the kids and can take them out of the country at will, the source familiar with the visitation plan said. The children are currently home in California at Neverland Ranch, but they vacationed with Jackson in Bahrain last summer and were by his side in London earlier this month. Rowe, 46, got a scare recently when Jackson's defense lawyer Tom Mesereau said the pop icon had "permanently" left the U.S. and should be crossed off the jury-duty list in Santa Barbara County. But her fears eased a bit late last week when reports surfaced that Jackson, 47, was back in California recording a hurricane benefit CD in L.A. "Debbie is really having a problem with this setup. She's afraid Michael could take the kids somewhere and she'd have no hope of visitation," said the family source. When Rowe's tearful, pro-Jackson testimony body-slammed prosecutors in the kiddie sex case, some observers suggested the King of Pop would reward her with generous visitation of the kids she legally gave up to him in October 2001. A judge later ruled Rowe's surrender of parental rights was invalid due to "procedural" errors and she got a second chance at the bargaining table. But after months of legal wrangling, Rowe didn't even score a regular schedule of visits with the cute kids she wept for on the witness stand. Instead, she's at the mercy of Jackson and the no-nonsense nanny to arrange visits when she asks for them. "There is no specific number of times that she can see them. It's by request, on a case-by-case basis," said the source familiar with the visitation order. Rowe is not the mother of Jackson's third child, 4-year-old Prince Michael 2nd (nicknamed Blanket), whom the singer once dangled from a Berlin balcony. Although Jackson smiled and batted his eyes at Rowe in court, he has no interest in rekindling a friendship - much less a romantic relationship, a third source close to the situation said. "A phone call to say 'thanks' would have been nice. It didn't happen. He [Jackson] truly does not want her in his life."

:headshake http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174712,00.html Escaped Pit Bulls Attack Six People Sunday, November 06, 2005 CARY, Ill — A 10-year-old boy was in critical condition Sunday after three pit bulls (search) escaped from a home and went on a rampage, attacking six people before police shot and killed dogs, authorities said. No charges had been filed Sunday, but McHenry County (search) Sheriff Keith Nygren said it was being investigated as a crime scene. Neighbors said the attacks started late Saturday afternoon when children going door-to-door for a fund-raiser arrived at the home of Scott Sword, 41, who owned the dogs. "We had music playing, and I heard this bizarre sound," said Debby Rivera, who lives three houses away. "I looked out the window, and I saw a young boy. The dogs were just jumping on him." "The screams were horrible," she said. The dogs were "relentless, like they were possessed." The pit bulls attacked the two children, and when the dogs' owner tried to stop them, the dogs turned on him and bit off his thumb, Nygren said. The boy's father also tried to protect his son and was attacked. The dogs went after another neighbor as well. "The scene sprawled over a couple blocks, it was a very chaotic scene," said Lt. Michael Douglas of the Cary Fire Protection District (search). Residents threw rocks at the dogs and honked car horns to try to distract them from attacking before police arrived and shot the animals. Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats. "He'd hit them, they'd run, and they'd come back," Malone said. "This went on for 15 minutes." The boy who was attacked, Nick Foley, was hospitalized in critical condition Sunday. His friend Jordan Lamarre, also 10, was in serious condition. Nick's father was listed in good condition. Sword and two others were treated for injuries and released. Last week, another 10-year-old boy in Colorado was mauled by a pack of pit bulls that attacked him in his own back yard. The boy was in critical condition after the attack, and the hospital said Sunday his family had requested no further information about his condition be released. The attack in the Denver suburb of Aurora came two days after the City Council banned pit bulls and other "fighting dogs." Owners who already had the dogs could keep them if they paid a $200 annual license fee.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/11/03/taxes.html Woman Who Owed $1.16 In Back Taxes Arraigned Combs case sent to county court (10/21/05) Reported by: 9News Web produced by: Mark Sickmiller Photographed by: 9News First posted: 11/3/2005 11:05:26 AM The Loveland woman arrested for failing to pay $1.16 in city was arraigned Thursday morning. The prosecution of Deborah Combs has gained national attention. Combs says she has been "mostly unemployed" since 2000 and didn't realize she had to file returns until the city notified her in February. By that time, Combs owed 200 dollars in late fees. "I really am shocked that this had happened over $1.16. There isn't a principle involved over $1.16," Combs said Thursday. The prosecutor says it's a pretty simple case. "Thousands of other residents of Loveland have paid their taxes. We simply want Ms. Combs to do what every other resident is doing and pay her taxes," said prosecutor Joe Braun. Combs is scheduled to be in court again later this month for a pre-trial hearing.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=113232 Man guilty of murder Jury doesn"t buy story of being too shocked to stop rape, slaying By Christy Gutowski Daily Herald Legal Affairs Writer Posted Tuesday, November 01, 2005 Turner Reeves III said he was too paralyzed with terror to help a struggling 14-year-old girl fighting for her life as his friend raped, strangled and suffocated her. His explanation Monday for why he did nothing to save Nassim Davoodi in the final horrific moments of the Carol Stream girl’s life failed to convince a jury he was innocent. The panel deliberated for 4 1/2 hours before finding the Hanover Park man guilty of the aggravated kidnapping, sexual assault and murder of the Bartlett High School freshman after she accepted his offer of a ride home. Another defendant, Skyler Chambers, 23, of Hayward, Calif., was convicted of the same charges in April. His sentencing hearing begins Nov. 17 in Rolling Meadows. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against both men. The slain girl’s family said the two have earned it. “They took the life of an innocent child,” Jamal Davoodi said Monday of his daughter’s killers. “There’s no words to call them. Even animals are better.” Reeves, 25, showed no outward reaction at 8:30 p.m. Monday when the clerk read the guilty verdicts. He never looked out into the crowded gallery where his family and that of Nassim’s sat on opposite sides of the courtroom. His mother wiped tears from her eyes, trembling at the reality her son will most likely never be a free man again. The slain girl’s parents also wept with relief and sorrow for their reality — that the gregarious, raven-haired girl who loved to sing was gone forever. They thanked the prosecutors and Carol Stream police officers, including lead detective Kelly Lally, who worked to bring Nassim home and, later, to find her killers. Nassim vanished May 31, 2002, after classes let out. Her friend later told police she last saw Nassim near their bus stop accepting a ride home with the two men and a 16-year-old classmate, who is Reeves’ cousin. They were supposed to go to the mall or a park. Instead, Reeves drove to his parents’ house, where he parked his Toyota Camry in the garage. Authorities said the men strangled and suffocated Nassim with pillows after they took turns raping her. Evidence also indicates the girl put up a desperate 10-minute struggle. Reeves testified Monday that it was Chambers who attacked Nassim while he, too panicked to act, sat in disbelief. He did admit holding down Nassim’s arm while Chambers suffocated her, but said it was only to keep her from scratching so his friend would calm down. “Really, I didn’t know what to do,” Reeves told the jury. “It wasn’t something I expected. It was shocking to see what was going on. I was terrified.” He denied taking part in either the sexual assault or the murder, but forensic experts said they linked him to the rape through DNA after finding both men’s semen in Nassim’s body. The defense team, Michael Clancy and Leland Shalgos, questioned the reliability of the DNA evidence. They also noted it was Chambers, not Reeves, who had scratch marks. The case was prosecuted by Jane Radostits, a deputy chief of the DuPage County state’s attorneys criminal bureau, and Cook County prosecutors Tom Byrne and Steve Rosenblum. They argued the evidence was overwhelming. Rosenblum told jurors it was Nassim, not Reeves, who was terrified that day. “He has no idea what panic is,” the prosecutor said. “Panic is a child alone in the back seat of a car in a dark garage with two grown men violating her while she’s trying to get one last gasp of breath.” Both men admitted burying Nassim in a shallow grave near Long Grove. The jury also found Reeves guilty of concealment of a homicide. Police worked around the clock to find Nassim after her parents reported her missing by 9 p.m. May 31, 2002. Family and friends posted fliers during their frantic five-day search. Detectives interviewed the 16-year-old classmate, Chambers and Reeves that weekend but initially let them go. They didn’t deny talking to Nassim, but they said she left them to go with two men in a white Buick. Police kept Reeves’ home under surveillance. Authorities got a break in the case days later on June 3, 2002, when the classmate told police he hadn’t been truthful. He testified he lied at Reeves’ behest. Back in custody, both men pinned the crime on each other during videotaped interrogations. Fourth-eight hours later, Reeves led them to Nassim, buried in a fetal position in a tiny grave. She is now buried at a Wheaton cemetery. At her funeral, her parents remembered how their youngest child loved to sing. “I’m just glad it’s over,” her mother, Juanita Davoodi, said. “I was very, very nervous, but finally I have justice for Nassim. She can rest in peace now.” Both defendants opted to have Cook County Judge Joseph Urso decide their punishment rather than leaving it in a jury’s hands. A sentencing date has not been scheduled for Reeves.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 04:59 PM) You should. Actually you should come down here for the shower, dammit. I'm game.. I'll likely be Madison's nanny.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 04:56 PM) I am not even bothering to call... just cause... oh screw it. I am. Might as well. We'll all be doing the same thing to you.. LOL

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 04:52 PM) If the name stood, it's Madison Sarah. I don't think that changed... Anyway... :snr I was wondering also.. LOL. It did - just the middle name anyway. He's all dizzy... Me: "how much does she weigh..? How long...?" SS: ".. don't know... "

Madison Susan... Daddy is too excited at this point to care how much she weighs or how long she it.. LOL. 10 fingers, 10 toes.. all is well. Happy Birthday sweet Madison..

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) AND I BEAT YOU STEFF! I was on the phone!!! :finger

Little miss southsider just arrived!!!!

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 04:02 PM) I don't like this idea - giving them out on that day means a lot of Cub fans would get replica rings too, right? I think this rumor is about as close to true as the parade down Western Avenue..