Steff

Don't go.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 12:15 PM) Def making the trip to Great American to see us whip the Reds, my national league team. Us also.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) Jon would get no where near 10 mill in arbitration. If he goes to arbitration which I highly doubt he'll get around 6-7 $7 mil lock.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) 14 wins in an average year. Young guy. Looked great in the post season. Boras could get him a $30/3 deal right now. A lesser agent could get him $35/4 IMHO he's a solid #2 on most staffs right now and a #1 on a couple. How good would he look in Yankee pinstripes? Maybe.. if Boras was his agent. Thank God he's not. At the end of the day I think Jerry will convince the others that it's time they take a risk with a pitcher again. Jon also has done a great deal of bonding with this staff and the players. I think Jon is the least of our worries in terms of a deal getting done.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:58 AM) Steff and Coop already ironed out a deal. Egggzactly.

QUOTE(mreye @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) Powers!...Activate! LMAO.. Wondertwins.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) A big key to this pitching staff is Don Cooper. If Coop stays, then there is a good chance this pitching staff will be BETTER next year. If Coop goes, the staff will stay the same (which isn't bad at all, obviously) or worse. so I think we should wait and see what Coop is going to do...if anything. Coop isn't going anywhere.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:53 AM) I would be SHOCKED if Garland signed a multi year deal that had the last years being that cheap. Jon has to have seen what guys who were half as good as him (Clement and Ortiz come to mind) got in this marketplace. He would pull down $10 mil a year for 4-5 years on the open market right now. I agree. I see something like $7, $9, $12, with a year 4 option.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) We are missing Queen, I'll bet now that she's married, Brian won't let her hang out with the likes of us I'm still so used to her being Fanof14... Memories...

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:50 AM) Pfft. You got that in the bag like a Jeter Gold Glove 3-Pete Baby!!!

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:42 AM) Members online: Steff, sox4lifeinPA, Texsox, kapkomet, mreye, southsider2k5 Ahh.. the good old days.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) Don't you drag me into that mess... Drag you into it..? YOU started it!!! You better win "Troublemaker of the Year" this year..

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) Not really. The number of years is the factor in this whole thing though. I can justify 5 and big money for PK. However, with the body PK has, I don't want to give him anything over that. So, if the Sox were to offer a 6 or 7 year deal, and instead he went to Boston or LAAAAAAAAAA, I wouldn't be upset. LMAO.

QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 11:03 AM) I have no clue. All I know is that I am going to buy a 13 game plan whenever they go onsale. I dont know how it works, but my question I guess was; is there going to be lower deck seats available at all this year, or will those be sold to the full and split season ticket holders. I want lower deck for opening day and the cubs game as part of the package, the rest I dont care were they are at... Is that gona be impossable? Oh yea. You'll be fine.

Jury Finds for Merck in Second Vioxx Case JOHN CURRAN, Associated Press Writer 30 minutes ago ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. - Merck & Co. won a major victory in the battle over its Vioxx painkiller Thursday when a New Jersey state jury found that the drugmaker properly warned consumers about the risks of the medication. The finding means Merck won't be held liable for the 2001 heart attack suffered by a man taking Vioxx. After deliberating for less than eight hours over three days, the jury cleared Merck of allegations it failed to warn consumers about the drug's risks and engaged in "unconscionable commercial practices" in marketing it to doctors and their patients. The verdict was Merck's first win out of two Vioxx-related trials. In August, a Texas jury found the company liable in a Vioxx user's death. Damages there will be cut to about one-tenth of the jury's $253 million award due to that state's caps on punitive damages. Much of the seven-week trial, eagerly watched by lawyers and plaintiffs from around the country, relied on the testimony of medical experts. Witnesses for Merck testified the company believed Vioxx was safe for the heart before the drug was pulled from the market a year ago after a study showed it doubled risk of heart attacks and strokes when taken for at least 18 months. The company faces more than 6,500 similar lawsuits. Merck has said it plans to fight the product liability suits one by one. The Texas and New Jersey cases have drawn national attention from pharmaceutical companies, lawyers, consumers and stock analysts who are trying to determine what lies ahead for Merck. The company's stock rose 6 percent, or $1.69, to $30.10 in late morning trading after the verdict. Members of Merck's legal team, some with tears in their eyes, hugged each other after the New Jersey verdict. "I feel pretty good," said lead counsel Diane Sullivan. "I'm proud of the folks at Merck." The verdict capped a trial centering on Frederick "Mike" Humeston, 60, of Boise, Idaho, who was stricken two months after he began taking the drug to ease pain from a Vietnam war knee injury. Merck's lawyers appeared to be fighting a losing battle, repeatedly clashing with Superior Court Judge Carol E. Higbee, who denied key motion requests by them and threw out the testimony of Merck's first witness on procedural grounds. On five different occasions, Merck asked her to declare a mistrial. Each time, she refused. In the end, that turned out to be a blessing — and a much-needed one — for Merck, which pulled Vioxx off the market last year after a study showed it increased the risk of heart attacks and strokes after 18 months' use. The six-woman, three-man jury concluded that Merck adequately disclosed information about the drug's risks and could not be held accountable for Humeston's heart attack. The jurors voted 8-1 that Merck properly warned doctors about risks with Vioxx and voted unanimously on three counts that Merck did not mislead doctors about the drug's safety. Humeston's lawyers painted a picture of the two-time Purple Heart winner as a victim of a greedy drug company that put profits before patients, rushing Vioxx to market in an unsuccessful bid to beat rival Celebrex onto drugstore shelves. About 20 million Americans took Vioxx after it hit the market in 1999, embracing it for its effectiveness in relieving pain while sparing them the upset stomachs, ulcers and other gastric problems associated with some other analgesics. At its peak, Vioxx was a $2.5 billion-a-year blockbuster. It worked for Humeston, alleviating pain in his left knee, which sustained shrapnel injuries during his U.S. Marine Corps service in Vietnam. But on Sept. 18, 2001, Humeston took two Vioxx pills after work and within hours suffered a mild heart attack. His doctors blamed it on Vioxx, saying Humeston — a hiker and former mountain guide — had clear arteries and no history of heart disease. He wouldn't have taken it had he known about the heart attack risk, lawyer Chris Seeger told jurors. Merck repeatedly reminded jurors that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration had approved it as safe and effective on four occasions for use against different types of pain, the last a month before Merck recalled it. The company's lawyers cited Humeston's elevated blood pressure, weight and stress from an ongoing dispute he was having with his U.S. Postal Service bosses, saying they were to blame for his heart attack, not Vioxx. The night before the heart attack, Humeston was called by his personal physician in response to an office visit by Postal Service fraud investigators in which they showed him a secretly-recorded videotape of Humeston working on a car at his home. Merck's expert cardiologist testified that that call was the "absolute trigger" for the heart attack. While Humeston made for a sympathetic plaintiff, he also was a relatively healthy one, appearing in court for nearly every day of testimony and taking the stand for one day. In the Texas case, the victim was a Wal-Mart produce manager who died after taking Vioxx; his widow was the plaintiff. Merck's lawyers also told jurors there was no scientific link between short-term Vioxx use and heart attacks.

QUOTE(Whitesoxfan56 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Tony, were those the best seats avalable, or is the UD what you wanted? I am just trying to judge were my 13 game plan seats will be Aren't the 13 game plans non designated?

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) I thought horny fossils was FlaSoxxJim No, it's YAS.

QUOTE(SoxFanInDallas @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:53 AM) I also want to thank whoever it was that gave me the sign idea Buzz Off! This is our Year! Go Sox! I was on the Fox pregame and my phone started going crazy as soon as I was on TV. You were on several times during the game as well.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:40 AM) I've already gotten a lot more than her autograph. Just ask Jason. Oye... you're gonna give the kids carpel tunnel..

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:37 AM) Yo Frank, hold up the moving company . . . He's coming back for his kids, not the job.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:37 AM) Who becomes the hot autograph at the fest if PK is gone? That girl crying on tv before game 1 of the WS..

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:32 AM) Come to think of it, Can anyone on the team, with the exception of Cotts, be considered a hometown guy? I never really paid attention, but it seems most make their primary residence elsewhere. Frank's moving back full time. He'll be the only one here full time aside from Oz Jr who goes to college here, that I am aware of.

QUOTE(tonyho7476 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:32 AM) He f***ed the Orioles pretty hard...they finally have come out of his salary 'cloud'. He didn't f*** anyone. Peter wanted him, Peter called him, Peter pursued him, and Peter got him. They came out of the cloud before the 04 season, and insurance was paying 70+% of the contract anyway.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:30 AM) Doesn't AB have all the offensive Sox season records that Frank doesn't? IIRC he had a monster year in a Sox uniform. Si.

QUOTE(Greg Hibbard @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 10:27 AM) Cool. Call ticketmaster or call the white sox? I'm assuming ticketmaster. TM. I got DS and CS fees refunded. WS should be credited over the next few days.. I'll let you know if I got them or had to call.