Steff

Damaging, bulls***. Just because she had sex the day before I hight doubt she would have consented to what took place that day. "In the video, the defendants can be seen assaultin the girl with various objects" Yea... having a pool cue, juice bottles, lit cigarettes, etc.. shoved where they don't belong sounds like fun.. she probably asked for it, right Jugger. :headshake

Everyone, eh..?? Twist, twist, twist...

Completely understand. My fingers and toes are crossed... no pressure though.

But at least they are going to retry them. http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3472788/detail.html Orange County Prosecutors To Seek Retrial In Gang-Rape Case Jurors 'Hopelessly Deadlocked' On All Counts In First Case POSTED: 7:38 am PDT June 29, 2004 UPDATED: 6:07 pm PDT June 29, 2004 LOS ANGELES -- Prosecutors announced Tuesday they plan to retry an assistant sheriff's son and two other teenagers accused of the videotaped gang rape of a 16-year-old girl. A mistrial in the case was declared Monday after jurors told Superior Court Judge Francisco Briseno they were "hopelessly deadlocked" on every count. A hearing was scheduled for Aug. 6 to set a date for a second trial. Gregory Haidl, 18, and Kyle Nachreiner and Keith Spann, both 19, were charged with 24 felony counts, including rape by intoxication or force and assault with a deadly weapon, a pool cue. They face up to 55 years in prison if convicted of all charges. Prosecutors say the girl was drugged and raped by the three who videotaped the assault. Defense attorneys say the sex was consensual. Haidl is the son of Orange County Assistant Sheriff Don Haidl, and the taping took place in July 2002 at the elder Haidl's home while he was away. "With the presence of a videotape showing that someone is raping an unconscious girl, there is no other choice but to retry this case," Orange County district attorney spokeswoman Susan Kang Schroeder said Tuesday. District Attorney Tony Rackauckas agreed and said, "I can't even imagine not going forward without another trial." Schroeder said the woman on the tape, who has been identified in court as "Jane Doe," has told prosecutors she is willing to take part in another trial. She testified during the first trial that the day before the taping she willingly had sex with Haidl and Spann and kissed Nachreiner. The next night, she said, she collapsed after consuming a drink Nachreiner offered her. The tape, which jurors viewed, shows the defendants sexually assaulting the girl with various objects. Defense attorneys argued that the girl aspired to be a pornography star and pretended to be unconscious during the videotaping.

This is so sick. http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3468279/detail.html Jurors Said They Were 'Hopelessly Deadlocked With Strong Convictions' POSTED: 7:37 am PDT June 28, 2004 UPDATED: 7:49 pm PDT June 28, 2004 LOS ANGELES -- The judge declared a mistrial Monday in the gang-rape trial of an assistant sheriff's son and two other teenagers accused in the videotaped assault of a 16-year-old girl after jurors said they couldn't reach a verdict. Superior Court Judge Francisco Briseno made the ruling after jurors said they were deadlocked on every count. Jurors sent a note to the judge saying they were "hopelessly deadlocked with strong convictions" on all 24 counts in the case. The judge then asked each juror in court whether further deliberations would be helpful, and all said no. Briseno said the defendants could be charged again and that double jeopardy would not apply. The three teens are charged with drugging and raping the 16-year-old girl in July 2002, during an encounter they recorded on a videotape that was the central evidence in the trial. Defense attorneys argued that the girl was pretending to be unconscious during the videotaping and had consented to the sex acts. Gregory Haidl, 18, and Kyle Nachreiner and Keith Spann, both 19, are charged with 24 felony counts, including rape by intoxication or force and assault with a deadly weapon, a pool cue. They face up to 55 years in prison if convicted of all charges. "I think it would be very difficult to get 12 honest people to agree on a verdict in this case. It's just too emotional," said Nachreiner's attorney John Barnett, who also represented one of the police officers acquitted in the 1992 in the Rodney King case. Jurors began deliberations Thursday morning by asking the judge to allow them to again view the videotape. They later asked whether they should continue if they were unable to reach a verdict on the first count, rape by intoxication. Briseno directed them to continue. Later, jurors asked to hear the testimony of medical experts, one for the defense and one for the prosecution, who gave conflicting accounts of whether the alleged victim was conscious in the video. The July 2002 incident occurred inside the coastal home of Haidl's father, Don, a wealthy businessman and assistant sheriff, who was not home at the time. In the video, the defendants can be seen assaulting the girl with various objects. The woman testified in the case that a day before the alleged assault she willingly had sex with two of the accused, Haidl and Spann, and kissed Nachreiner. She said she returned the next night to see Spann, but quickly became dizzy and collapsed after drinking a blue-green drink that Nachreiner gave her. NBC4's Vikki Vargas said it's uncertain if the district attorney will retry the case.

Can you please stop screwing around and get this crap taken care of...

Yea.. I'm sure those dead infants are the real masterminds behind all the problems over there. :headshake

Curious about what you thought of it.

So I went with the sunrise ride... and we'll hit the strp joint later in the evening. I bet I'm gonna get some kick ass pictures from this thing.

Nerds.

No it wont. It'll just continue to remind us that Jugger lies. Maggs told me that.

Yea right.. walk away from a BJ.

You are one sick bastard. He's peeing all over the floor! Clean that mess up.

Oye ve... where's the kettle when you need it. :headshake

Good grief... Someone stop pissing in Juggs breakfast please.

Can we nominate others..?

Amen.

She didn't desire to be in politics. Hell.. she's more famous than he, and IMO, has more to lose, and even the scum sucking media in Hollywood knew where to draw the line on privacy. Unless it's something criminal or something that effects his ability to serve, then let it be. Poor kid is going to get the s*** razzed out of him because of this. So much for thinking of the kids. Some of you parents think about that.. you want your kids to know the details of what you and your spouses do in the bedroom..??

Ohhhh... I misunderstood. Sorry bout that.

I refuse to believe that the posters HERE are ignoring this issue, which is why I think Tex's insistance that we are making light of it, or ignoring it, is complete bulls***. What more do you want ME to do..? Walk around the park, miss watching the game, to report the bad people?

My God Tex... You are talking to an audience of 100 or so people here. What exactly do you want us to do? I sit in a section that this crap doesn't happen.. maybe I should just walk up to security and say.. "hmm.. maybe go check over there, there might be somthing bad going on..?" Send your rant to the papers as preaching here about this is like telling us to go out to the games... something we already do.

Yea.. uh hu.. Go me, go me..

You only get 1 station on your radio..?

Obviously you're referring to beers. I've been long complaining about this crap and giving suggestions. Nothing's going to change until something makes people afraid to do that crap there. The "phonebook" is not enough. They need to stop slaping the hands of these idiots.