Steff

No way.. what is this you speak of..?

Oh my gawd...

She did look really good. Are her and Tim married or not? I heard someone say "where's your wife.." and then on ET or one of those shows they just said "partner"..

Yep.

Guys.. I'm sorry that turned into what it did. That was not my intentions.

Oh c'mon Flash.. everyone is entitled to their opinion. Rex can't help it.. he's got a big mouth I said something the other day in response to the venting posts about the negativity... Long time fans are just so used to getting our hopes up only to have them squashed so some are just being negative from the get go. Me.. I can't be ticked for more than a few hours. But I can understand how some can. It's their blood pressure.. right?

Any trouble I can cause in here...

And Rex was specifically commenting on the fact that I was correct that no one would get in trouble for THIS without PROOF. So.. what was the point of your post if it was not to debate Rex's comment..? Why bother posting on THIS matter if you were not referring to THIS matter..?

Ok.. so you were just sitting there minding your own business reading this thread.. when all of a sudden.. BAM! This thought just popped into your head and you felt compelled to post it, in this thread, in response to Rex, who's comment was specifically related to this issue of players never getting into trouble for this unless they are caught red handed, and not for what they might have done in the past (with complete denial and absolutely NO proof let me add... )... But yet your analogy was not meant in any way shape or form to be associated with the topic being discussed... OK.. gotcha. My sincerest apologies...

You didn't.... that's my point. You come storming in posting something that has NOTHING to do with this topic... The analogy YOU posted REQUIRES PROOF. There is NO PROOF in this matter. Gezzus friggin criminey... :headshake

Where is my mistake SSI..? Please point it out to me..? By all means.. if I misunderstood and you were NOT attempting to correlate getting in trouble for having unknowing sex with a minor (with proof I assume...? ) with getting into trouble for using an illegal substance with NO PROOF... then I'll be sure to apologize. And stop trying to drag everyone into your pity party. I'm sure they don't appreciate it.

Please.. please.. PLEASE tell me how IN THIS CASE anyone will be punished for anything without PROOF. Who did what unknowlingly? I know it must be hard.. but can you at least try to act like an adult when posting..? :headshake

You're absoultely right. However that's not the argument - at least I don't see that as being the argument. CrimsonWeltall made a comment about Bonds records now being questioned, tainted, etc.. I took the liberty of commenting further. Without proof no one will ever be punished for taking anything. That's the bottom line.

Judgement... nope. Just my opinion. And your bulls*** queenie s*** is getting annoying. Everytime your pee pee gets slaped you whip out the green and hide your confrontational s*** with a smirk.. but you fool no one. You can dish it.. but you can't take it. C'mon SSI.. I'm trying to debate with you on a legit subject... no fun unless you can cry about me being mean to you...? :headshake

Rex clearly states... "in THIS case" You are absolutely correct.. this is over someone's head. Thanks for the quote.

I was replying when you were editing so I did not see your explination.. but right on cue with the smart ass reply.

Oh lookie who joined the party... Rose signed an agreement to be VOLUNTARILY barred from baseball. Another flawed analogy.

And poof... it returns. Why did you remove it in the first place..?

Yes.. your attempt was to prove that someone can be punished for doing something unknowingly.. and if it was not to prove to Rex (since you were responding to him in regards to them being unaware of what they might have been putting in their body was something illegal...) regarding this issue.. they why did you post it at all? Were you not equating to ball players getting into trouble even if they didn't know..? Are you not posting in the 'roid thread? Are you saying that you just all of a sudden had a thought about a guy getting busted for unknowingly having sexual contact with a minor..... and decided to post it.... ironically in response to a comment made by Rex DIRECTLY related to this issue..? :headshake Good grief SSI.. the analogy was flawed. No more, no less. Yes.. thankfully I quoted it. Why did you delete it..??

Well.. it WAS a lot better a few years ago than it is today..

And the point you missed is that you can NOT convict someone without PROOF. Who said they knew..? Who said they did anything wrong..? They sure didn't. They're saying they did NOTHING.. and at this point - that we know of - that's fact. How can you punish someone for something when they DENY they did anything wrong and there is no PROOF..? You can't. I didn't miss anything. You analogy - which is interestingly absent from this thread - is flawed.

Agree there. Water cooler conversation will be laced with this till the end of time. I'm talking about marking their records. That will never happen. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

What a stupid analogy. If a guy ADMITS he slept with a girl and it turns out she was underage then yes he's in trouble.. but if they BOTH deny it and there's no PROOF that they had sex.. then no one is in trouble. PROOF being the key word there. There is NO PROOF that these guys took anything. They did NOT test positive that we know of. Can't get in trouble if there's NO PROOF.

The bottom line is that if they say they never took anything.. and there's no proof they took anything.. then where's the argument to "taint" their records?? There isn't one. It's not like the roids came flying out when Bonds hit his record HR.. know what I mean... This is such a non issue - as far as labeling these guys with a scarlet R on their chest. No one will ever know.. and to be honest.. I don't think anyone will care in 5 weeks when we're all lining up at the turnstyles.

Got my stuff yesterday. Murcie, thanks for the golf shirts. They are excellent.