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Stone was saying Vazquez was taking 25-30 seconds between pitches.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:46 PM) Tyrus Thomas says hi. I won't even say he was a bad pick based on his ability. They just couldn't find anyone to get through to him. He might be a Zach Randolph type that takes until he turns 30 to grow up.

Well for the line up we ran out there, they are doing a good job of make Vazquez work. I think he is in the middle 60's for a pitch count after three innings.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) Wow, I mean to type "touch your guns". Wow. LOL> I thought it fit with the beginning pretty well

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:21 PM) Either him or Gordon as your 1 and 2. For me Gordo is either hitting 2 or down the line up. With his struggles, and the things Ozzie was saying, there is no way I heap more on the kid. He is looking like he might be coming out of that, so there is no way I put him in a spot where he changes his plan of attack in his head, and potentially screws his game up.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:14 PM) Anyone hitting over .150. With the guys we have left, that leaves the middle of the order. Teahen is the only guy out of that group I can see.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:04 PM) I got pissed at him after the draft for being cocky and saying he'd make the teams that passed on him pay. I'm happy to be wrong. I had zero expectations for the guy.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) Why the hell would you have either of them leadoff?!? As opposed to who else right today?

Jones with a bad back is still better than most of this team right now... that's just sad.

Jones with a bad back is still better than most of this team right now... that's just sad.

QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:04 PM) I'd leadoff Kotsay before I'd lead off Vizquel. The guy can't hit anymore. They are both around .100. It doesn't really matter.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:06 PM) What are the chances that this thread jinxes today's game? That's about the size of it...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2010 -> 12:03 PM) Unless they try to allow gays to get married. Or try to touch your guys. I'm sure if there was a rich gay lobbying group, they would be better off.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2010 -> 11:58 AM) You can't even find satisfaction in a guy out-performing expectations, can you? Yeah, I'd like to see the person who picked Taj to be a 9 pt 7.5 rb guy as a rook.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ May 1, 2010 -> 11:54 AM) Ozzie is a f***ing p****. Says he's gonna bench Pierre, then OH NO HES BACK! Wow, I just puked my my mouth a bit. Yet another awful lineup. VIZQUEL LEADOFF FTW!!! With the injuries, he doesn't have much choice.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 1, 2010 -> 11:52 AM) That was for the posters who were complaining about him not playing everyday. Dude has been injury prone for a while. He should only start 4-5 days a week really. And even with being a part-time starter, his back is already giving out.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ May 1, 2010 -> 11:17 AM) Uh, I don't think KW deserves to be fired yet, c'mon I think he's been very successful he only had 2 losing seasons after 2005 (2007 and 2010). And he made some trades since 2005 that made the organization better: Floyd, Danks, Thornton, Quentin, Peavy, etc. Plus, a lot of people may hate how it affects payroll, but the Rios acquistion was brilliant. I honestly think it's really Konerko to blame for creating an atmosphere where the clubhouse revolved around Konerko/Thome/Dye that made newcomers (Swisher, O-Cab, Getz, etc) feel unwelcome and scrutinized. Seriously, O-Cab was a great player for the Sox, he was accustomed to being on winning teams with a winning clubhouse culture, yet when he arrived on the Sox the big boys (Konerko/Thome/Dye) alienated him. Sadly, even though I love Konerko and AJ, I think it's time for the Sox to move on and let them walk after the 2010 season and let a new era take over the clubhouse, an era led by guys like Beckham, Quentin, Rios, Peavy, and Danks. Plus, I think once Konerko and AJ are gone, KW is gonna make a big move for a big bat to play 1st base. The last couple moves KW made were mostly pitchers (Danks, Floyd, Peavy), so besides the move Rios, the Sox haven't made a move for a HIGH-PROFILE bat in a while, so I think we're due to see KW make a move for one. So yea, that's my case for keeping KW. I don't know about Getz, but Cabrera and Swisher alienated themselves by being pricks about different things. Both of them made big public shows putting themselves before the team.

They also said that Jones is already having back spasms, which is why he didn't play yesterday. So much for we should play him every single day, huh?

QUOTE (Brian @ May 1, 2010 -> 10:15 AM) Congrats to him. If he gets stronger, he can be a beast. I was amazed how how polished he was for the 26th player taken in the draft. Some guys just have those immeasurable things to their game. Taj is one.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ May 1, 2010 -> 09:48 AM) One of the things that made the Schueler era difficult was the organizations reticence to spend money...Every contract was a prize fight dragged out in the press....arbitration hearings....refusal to sign decent free agents. Jack Gould, a former White Sox organization bean counter, took tremendous pride in winning arbitration hearings. Hawk used to make a joke about it on the broadcast. We do not have this problem now as our payroll is high and we tend to sign our guys. But, the team is lousy nonetheless. And as I recall, how many 90-100 loss seasons did we endure between 1997 and 2000? Those teams were not good but they were not horrendous. I guarantee you one thing, the longer we are in denial that this team is past its prime, the more likely we will see 90-100 loss seasons. The team has been past its prime. In case you haven't noticed, the organization is getting made over. Guys like Rios and Peavy are the next stars of the team. Guys like Dye and Thome are gone. In all likelihood, Konerko is next, and Kenny will track down another big bat for the middle of the order.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 08:42 PM) He said nothing of the sort, you're just making s*** up now. Think what you want, but it is as clear as day to me. It has been a trend for a long time now that individual rights don't matter. This is just another step down that path.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ May 1, 2010 -> 09:24 AM) I sure do. Just because Schueler was a lousy GM means that Kenny should get a free pass? Look, even after the WC, Kenny has made some good deals- Floyd, Danks Thorton, Quentin (only becaue it won us a Div Title), Alexei.... But he has also made some horrible deals and quite frankly, I am very concerned about the future of this organization. Our minor leagues suck, and just because we have not had the high draft picks doesn't mean we shouldn't be developing decent players- look at Boston, Minnesota, New York...Instead of wasting millions on Jake Peavy, why not throw that money to the player development side- hire better scouts, coaches and expand our scouting network to other countries. Hire the right people for God's sake, instead of your buddies who end up robbing you blind (Dave Wilder). All of this is on the General Manager. If you really remember the Schueler era, you wouldn't think Williams is half as bad as you do. And it is easy to say spend money on the minors, but the problem is Kenny can't go through years of 90 and 100 loss seasons to rebuild the farm system. This marketplace won't let him do that. He has to rebuild on the fly, or Sox games go back to the late 70s when 10,000 people was a normal crowd.

Really nice all around game for Charlotte. Good to see the pitchers (Marquez, Dolsi, Whistler) all do well.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 11:39 PM) That seems to be the point people are missing. He would be another .210 hitter for awhile. I get the impression he doesn't want to play baseball anymore. Yep. It would be different if he was playing anywhere at this point, but he isn't. He can't help anyone right now.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 11:39 PM) I would say about 90 losses, an empty ball park, no farm system, a high payrolled team going no where and three more years stuck with a $16 milllion washout could be just about enough to get Kenny the "John Paxon" promotion. Kenny will never be fired but being kicked upstairs is common practice for once highly regarded executives who, um, are not so highly regarded anymore. Losing is one thing, but when the mistakes that are made place financial strain on the organization (Peavy, Rios), all bets are off. The question is, who succeeds Williams? I am still not convinced that Rick Hahn will be the guy, given that he helped KW twist Jerry's arm into signing Peavy. Could Jerry end up tapping the shoulder of his buddy, Tony LaRussa to convince him return to the Sox as a GM? LaRussa is looking for a new gig outside of managing, and this could be it. Serious question. Do you remember the Ron Scheuler era?