southsider2k5

I have gotten pretty used to being browbeaten for daring to question the Great and Mighty Getz.

Yes, I mean like reframing an completely different argument that was made into something that was never actually presented and then repeating as if it was fact, good job.

The Red supposedly offered us two top prospects last year for Robert, if we were willing to pick up contract.

They also planted that his extension didn't work with starting.

By a solid amount too. Say a year/year and a half.

All this discussion is exactly why he won't be a starter, no matter what gets said to the press.

OOOH, the thought police are not going to like this one.

The HOPE is they pick up 18 to 24 years worth of control of players who WILL be around for the next decent team.

$5 million is apparently the new $2 million, which is 10 years ago's MiLB contract with an invite to spring training.

Yeah, if no other trend continues, taking high end arm talent and super athletic SS's at the top of the draft should be it.

The Sox can get top prospects if Jerry gives up cash, which is exactly what they turned down last winter from Cincy.

If all of these guys do miraculously make it, there are plenty of OF spots up for grabs too. A guy like Carlson could translate to CF, Monty to a corner, and Bonny is already being mentioned as a future LF.

Not to mention if their stuff slips at all, its over.

Who could have seen that coming

So much of that open mindedness I keep reading about.

Each team picked at least 40 other people to put on their 40 man rosters over the guys who were left unprotected. I am not sure what is confusing you here.

Teel and Meidroth both came from the outside as well.

I am encouraged that we have been able to improve things coming in from the outside for sure. I was just hoping for more of that same thing from guys on the inside. But I think when 10% of your roster is Rule 5 picks, that makes the point as to how many players are out there to vastly improve it.

Again, I think this goes back to the OP. It is so hard to find gold in the Rule 5, that just by the sheer volume of what we have seen the past few years of picks, it is hard to see anything other than a major talent gap in the Sox system vs the rest of baseball.

I wish you could do this once without resulting to insults, but here we are. Quite literally the teams that lost these players didn't think enough of them to put them on to their 40 man rosters. That is an absolute fact. No Baghdad Bob needed here. If they the only reason they didn't get protected is because they thought 29 other teams wouldn't think enough of them to pick them, then yes, they are making a judgement call that they aren't good enough to be rostered over other players they already have on their 40, even with the chance at getting picked.

I think the point the OP was getting at is that out our 40 current man roster, 4 of them weren't good enough for the other teams 40 man rosters, including the fact that Smith and Vasil both were still good enough to make it through a full season with the White Sox. We couldn't even be bothered to protect a ton of eligible players, and only one of them was good enough to attract the attention of another franchise during the same time period. For my sense the "embarrassment" wouldn't be with finding other better players from other rosters, it is that the talent gap on the roster is so wide, that we keep finding the sheer amount of players who weren't good enough to be on other rosters, but are still able to replace much worse players on the Sox roster, and vastly improve it. That just screams lack of depth on our 40, at least to me. The historic returns on the Rule 5 are so minimal.

If there really is a plan for Grant Taylor to eventually be a starter, calling him up to be a reliever this soon was so incredibly stupid. It just makes way more sense that we are being lied to about this in some for, whether it is to appease Taylor, or the fan base.

He is quite literally correct. -A major league roster is 40 players. -The Brewers decided there were 40 other players in their system worth protecting other than Shane Smith. -For the White Sox, he was their front line starter and all-star.

I think it goes to the way the Sox are messaging under Getz. There isn't a lot of consistency and clarity. Hahn kind of did the leagueese thing where he talked, but didn't really say anything. Getz will make a declarative statement, and then the next month is spent walking it back, or watering it down. Take the payroll talks this year. You can find just about anything you want to believe in their statements over the last month or so.