southsider2k5

As a Sox fan who has seen a lot of these "turned the corner" guys turn out to just be flukes in a career year, I am not ready to proclaim them fixed.

I said a couple of years ago that a great yardmarker of success would be how the trio of Taylor, Hagen, and Schultz ended up. So far, the needle isn't pointing up.

Set your river on fire?

Now we are talking overpay.

It makes a lot of sense if either of them have enough value to get there. It could even be a dump for a nothing MiLB player to get the roster spot open.

Like an 88 mph grooved fastball.

I think the "he wasn't ready" part was pretty clear, and was talked about by some ahead of his call up. I don't think most of us think he is dead yet.

That's the whole equation.

It is ironic that you went and posted these two posts within 5 minutes of each other. Did YOU ask the players how they feel about Mike Vasil? Did YOU ask the Coaches what they think of Vasil being in the dugout? Maybe ask them and then back up your outsided opinions with facts. That's how that works, right?

Very plainly he was rushed to the majors as a starter. That is what is obvious.

How much less do you want him throw in terms of stuff?

Can we stop pretending it is the good old days when it comes to pitching? We know for a fact that pitcher throw harder than ever because hitters are more advanced than ever. We only have data back to 2002, and the average fastball then was 89.2 mph. So far in 2026 it is 94.7. Keep going backwards in time, and that number keeps dropping. It was notable in the old days when I guy threw 90, let alone 95. Today it is notable when they don't. It was MUCH easier to go deeper into games then, because you weren't going at max effort on each pitch. Somehow in the discussion about how no one works deep into games, we seem to leave out the fact that instead of marathon runners on the mound, pitchers have turned into 100 meter sprinters, with a few 200 and 400 meter guys mixed in who can hold their stuff out to 100 pitches 30 times per year. It was easy to go 300 innings when you were topping out at 80 mph and were mixing in junk like a knuckleball because each pitch was at 75 to 80%. NO ONE does that today, which is why almost no one gets to 200, let alone 300 innings. Again, think of it this way. World class 100 meter dash speeds the last couple of Olympics are in the 9.8 range. Projected out over 400 meters, that would be about a 39 second pace. The record is just over 43 seconds, meaning no one in the world has ever held a top 100 meter pace for 400 meters. If you ran 4 sets of 43 second 400's to get to a mile, your pace would be 2 minutes and 52 seconds, the world record just set was 3 minutes and 42 seconds. Drag that out to a marathon, and you would finish the world record in 1 hour and 37 minutes. The World record is just under 2 hours. Bonus, if you ran a 9.8 second 100 meter pace for a marathon, you would finish in just over an hour and eight minutes. TLDR, you can throw a lot of pitches at a much lower rate, or you can throw the hardest pitches and throw many less of them. But you cannot physically do both. Stop wondering why.

With the White Sox in first place with the best record in the AL.

Jerry is 100% going to play the bad guy for the next 3-5 years. He is going to burn down everything he needs to in order to maximize his selling price to Ishbia. He is going to burn down the union, and then he is going to war with the state of Illinois to get every dollar he can for the new stadium. If he burns every bridge on his way out, he won't GAF because he will be gone in a fixed amount of time. Ishbia gets to float in on a cloud after the pyro show and be the hero. This is transparent, Hollywood would reject this story as too obvious.

It's weird. With the pitching, if they run out of gas circa 2020, or 2006, would anyone really be surprised? The offense seems to be more sustainable, but the guys who are being depended on, are themselves full of question marks to a large extent. People are saying we need two starters, but if Schultz, Martin and/or Kay runs out of gas, what happens? The bullpen is crazy amounts of on borrowed time outside of one or two guys. Sure maybe we do the roster management of moving 8 to 10 guys off of the roster, plus whoever we move off from the minors to get those 4 new players, but in those say 15ish players we move to get all of these deals and roster moves, how badly will it hurt the Sox going forward?

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This is such a weird year. The team has largely overachieved, and has a ton of issues that are going to crop up over the next couple of months. They have a ton of players they have to make room for from the 60 day DL, and every player added from the outside complicates that math. There are about half a dozen guys on the 60 day who might show back up. Add four outside players (2 SP, 1 RP, and a C) and you now have 10 40 man roster slots to account for in the next month or so. We also have plenty of pitchers who are hitting the upper limits of their innings histories, on a staff that is already short handed. Can they continue to achieve at that level? I don't know. The other side is I don't know who is demonstrably better. Both the AL Central and the AL are weirdly low this year. We all know the story of the last rebuild where all of these guys were primed for a long run atop the division, and then they all flamed out under Tony. Could it happen again? Who knows. If you push in for this year, and the young pitching runs out of gas, as it well could, will you miss the guys you dealt in the future? I have no idea what I would be doing right now as GM. There are plenty of reasons to go for it, and there are plenty of reasons to do as little as possible to get by.

Can you show me a draft of a team who didn't do this?

Chris Sale was a reliever, at best.

Or until one of them gets hurt again.

Been saying that since the deal was announced.

We're fucked

Full speed, slow mo, etc. It's a catching move.

As a catcher, he has probably made those motions 10,000 times when you combine games, practices, drills, etc. There was nothing extraordinary about the move, except for the stuck cleat. If it wasn't the cleat, Teel has way bigger problems, because his body is not made for catching then.

Kinky.