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Which is exactly why repeating the cycle is such a waste.

Yet teams haven't valued him that way.

This is the first time I can recall making a case for Benny, post signing.

Essentially it is. They seem determined to get "value" for Robert, even though for years now they haven't agreed on what that "value" is. I think of it this way. Two months ago, you could have let Robert go for almost nothing. Then you obligated yourself to $20 million for him. Now, if we were willing to pay $10 million dollars we could supposedly have Chase Petty, a Comp Pick, and maybe another post TJS pitcher. If you remove Robert's name, essentially we would be paying $10 million for the two players and the draft pick. That's 12 years of pretty highly thought of pitchers, plus the 72nd pick in the draft (including the extra draft cap space of around $1.15m based on LY). So is that "value"? Isn't that about what we turned down in July, and not too far off of what Cincy offered a year ago? If that has been his worth for a year now, why did we bring him back knowing what his worth has been?

Which is what makes this song and dance so weird. What we know so far is that apparently no one was willing to put a decent return out there for Robert. We pick him up again on a one year option at 20 million, and again put a price tag much higher than his injury history and contract status valued him a few short months ago, and around we go again. Why? So we can get to July with him probably playing around 60% of the season, another stretch injured, and maybe a month where everything went right, so that teams can again value him as an injury riddled rental? We have done this for YEARS now. Why?

At the end of the day he is owed 2/30. Release him like a real big boy organization and move on.

His destination is LF for the Sox.

125 PAs in half a season sounds about right.

The biggest problem is even if the HeGetzUs crew is right and is some wunderkind, Jerry was still lurking to TLR his GM of the Year. If we have already seen a move happen because Ishbia actually cares about winning more than something that happened 40 years ago, things are already better.

Not in NEARLY the same volume.

Which of course got put on Robert being lazy, and not the hitting coach.

That's a bit different as you can actually SEE that. It isn't something made up to fit a narrative. If Robert looked like Lance Lynn and had the same physical breakdown injuries, sure question away. If he made boneheaded plays on a regular basis, again, question away on his IQ. As it stands the dude is absolutely ripped and plays some of the best CF on the planet. He's even played while OBVIOUSLY injured. Did anyone question TLRs work ethic when he couldn't be bothered to know the rules? How about David Wells 50 pounds overweight with back injuries? Sure didn't stop Wells from shittalking Frank.

It's been a source of irritation for me for a while. It's wild how every Latin or minority player gets their work ethic questioned after injuries, but a the overweight white guys get to run their mouths about them, even when they are injured.

Seriously, we are talking about something like a decade from from now. Odds are Jerry is fertilizer and the Ishbia era is well under way, making this all moot.

I think the motivation and work ethic stuff is almost certainly BS. These guys have played through injuries for most of their careers and it has robbed them of ability. I really don't think it gets better.

Which is why this whole dance of picking up his option was weird anyway.

This is who he is. He's been this way for his whole career. He isn't a young pup anymore.

I was wondering with actual money out there, if they finally dropped the charade.

This exactly.

I feel like we will never see good Luis Robert again. I think injuries have taken their toll.

Are kids allowed to have agents now with NIL?

If you have never been, it is a fun spot.

It won't change a thing.

Plus he was another one who the minions scurried out to talk about how lazy he was after he left.

Or this reporter is doing a solid for Yoan by listing teams with bad 3Bs to try to create interest