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QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 04:18 PM) How is that? He is a 27 year old career .212 hitter. What makes you think they got better than what they gave? The simple fact that he is athletic and still has more potential than Jones. They got a major leaguer, thats more than I would have expected them to get. It's not great, but if people make this some sort of steal for the Marlins, then that is quite ridiculous.

Thats not a bad deal for the Cubs.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 03:26 PM) Are you not reading it the same way I am then? You posted the exact quote I am talking about. Doesn't it seem to you that the writer thinks that that is such a great offer that the Cardinals should actually think twice about doing it? Doesn't it read to you that the writer thinks this is such a great package for Buehrle? What are you talking about? No, it seems like thats the polite, journalistic way of saying "Get this deal done!"

I'd do Crawford for Buehrle.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:48 PM) But the writer made it seem like a great deal - like the Cardinals should be reluctant to do it. Messed up. What are you talking about?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 11:11 AM) Youtube has everything you see. Can someone turn that into an avatar gif? Knightni?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:14 PM) How about this then, if Fernando Martinez were available Dontrelle Willis would be wearing orange and blue right now. Straight up for Willis? Do the Marlins do that?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 01:55 PM) If Minaya were offering up Martinez for Contreras KW would have made the deal already. Unless Contreras invoked his NTC, which would make me hate him forever.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 12:10 PM) Now for this Mets fan quote. If you dont want to give up a lot, then you dont have to. We will be very happy to see what other teams will want to give us. Its not like the Mets are the only team on the block looking at him. The next best pitcher on the market is Steve Traschel. You can go and trade for him, not burn any of your prospects and hope your offense thumps yourself to the WS. Have a nice day. LMAO, go get Steve Trachsel. I'm sure he'll lead that rotation to the World Series. QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 01:43 PM) Correct. I am not a fan of Gomez. I believe he is the overhyped flavor of the week. I think Fernando Martinez is the real deal. Include him or get nothing. That is probably the most ridiculous offer I have seen in the past 3 weeks. Seriously, now it's just getting out of hand. Their #1 prospect for Jose Contreras.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 03:49 AM) you didn't reply. you merely restated the original argument argument 1 - milledge argument 2 - milledge > 2 draft picks knight - argument 1 me - argument 2 predicated upon top prospects being more valuable than unknown draft picks, not to mention he would help the sox much faster than draft picks knight - milledge's character issues wouldn't fit with sox that is a reply. you merely stated that the sox would be happy to take 2 draft picks. that's just restating the original argument. I also mentioned that the Sox will not contend in 07 or 08, therefore your "Milledge will help us sooner" argument is moot. But whatever creams your twinkie. Oh, and I also mentioned concerns about his ankle, and his fall from grace within the Mets organization. But perhaps you missed that.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 03:36 AM) thank you. thank you for responding directly to my post. i think milledge's "head case" reputation is largely a media fabrication. his transgressions have been having sex with his girlfriend who was a couple years younger than him, high fiving fans after hitting a game tying homerun, and releasing a raunchy rap song. no drugs, no fights, no arrests. every veteran praised his attitude during spring training, saying he matured greatly. i don't think his character is really an issue, and he definitely is very talented. Because I never did? QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 03:38 AM) you're incredibly stupid. i don't know what else to say to you. are you retarded? if you're retarded please tell me, i might buy you icecream. I'm stupid, you're banned. Same s***, right?

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 03:30 AM) in this thread you: 1) tried to say that the white sox starters were better than the mets - proven wrong 2) tried to say that i said that the white sox should trade buerhle for milledge - wrong 3) tried to say that nobody in this thread said that 2 draft pics are better than milledge - wrong i don't care what the original post in the thread was about. it could've been about unicorns buttraping ozzie guillen while he spouts off homophobic slurs. somebody in this thread said that 2 draft picks had more value than milledge. i replied to their post. i don't see how this behavior is "odd" for a messageboard. what i do think is odd is your steadfast refusal to address the very simple argument that milledge > 2 draft picks. hell, i can even remove milledge's name from the argument player x = top prospect who is very close to being major league ready player x > 2 compensatory draft picks. Wow. You're special. No one said the Sox rotation > Mets. No one said Milledge > 2 comp. picks. You're essentially telling us that Milledge is better than 2 comp. picks for Buehrle. What don't you understand. You're giving us lemons and saying they're apples.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 03:11 AM) what in god's name are you babbling about. the only thing i talked about in this thread was the fact that lastings milledge is worth more than compensatory draft picks. i never said anything about buerhle; i didn't say anything about his trade worth (the white sox would trade him for milledge), i didn't say that there weren't advantages to keeping him around, etc. etc. etc. i can't believe you refuse to address this. you keep on babbling about all sorts of retarded s*** that is just completely irrelevant to my argument. me: "lastings milledge is worth more than 2 compensatory draft picks" you: MARK CAN TEACH DANKS HOW TO BE GOOD PITCHER!!!!! AND HE CAN MAKE ME FEEL GOOD AND HAPPY BECAUSE ME LIKE SEEING HIM PITCH GOOD NICE! me: "you're an idiot. i can't believe you're a moderator. you're incredibly stupid." you: YOU'RE A MET FAN WHY YOU HERE BEING MEAN I LIKE BUERHLE HAHA METS PITCHING NO GOOD WHITE SOX 4LIFE. Let's try and put 2 and 2 together here. The thread is about Buehrle for Milledge. You mentioned nothing about the trade in this thread. Hmmm, what does that say about you? And no, the White Sox would not trade him straight up for Milledge, now stop, because you're making even more of a fool out of yourself. Now tell me what I have refused to address, because I have touched on every "point" that you've tried to make.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:59 AM) this thread is about milledge would be good enough return for MB. nowhere in this thread did i comment on that trade. the only thing i commented on was the assertion that milledge is worth more than two compensatory draft picks. period. That makes total sense. Just as much sense as a Mets fan on a White Sox message board. Advantages of keeping Buehrle: - 2 compensation picks - Possibility of re-signing him - More great pitching for the rest of the season - Another guy to help Danks develop - Keeps fans in the seats Disadvantages of keeping Buehrle: - No immediate talent received back Would the Sox trade Buehrle for Milledge straight up? No. It's as simple as that.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:55 AM) no... it's saying that he'd rather have 2 draft picks than lastings milledge. in fact, he even set it up as "what is worth more: 2 draft picks or milledge" he didn't mention keeping buerhle. he flat out concluded that two draft picks are worth more than milledge. and any luck finding where i said that you should trade buerhle for milledge? Hmm, I don't know, because maybe what this thread is about? Did you even read the 1st post?

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:49 AM) so this isn't saying 2 compensatory picks is better than milledge? now find where i said anything other than milledge is better than 2 draft picks. find where in this post i said that the white sox should trade buerhle for milledge. My god, get your head out of your ass. That is not saying 2 comp. picks are better than Milledge. That is saying we'd rather keep Buehrle for the rest of the year and take our 2 picks in the next draft than trade him straight up for "L Millz".

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:40 AM) Mets Starter ERA - 3.81 - 4th in the Majors White Sox - 4.01 - 9th in the Majors close, but no cigar You said the White Sox can't rebuild. This implies that they need to contend. How can draft picks help them contend more than Milledge? I mean seriously, have some accountability for what you say. Not to mention I don't know how you can expect your compensatory draft picks to be better than Milledge. Or not. Either way, our compensatory picks will be high picks, unless a bottom 15 team signs him and another type A FA. You're basically telling me the Sox should do Buehrle for Milledge, and that is f***ing ridiculous. We'd very much like to have Milledge playing in LF for the Sox in 2008, but if all the Mets are offering is Milledge, then we will gladly take out 2 picks. No one ever said those 2 picks are better than Milledge. So please, learn how to read first, then come back and reply. Or just don't come back at all.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:31 AM) how would two compensatory draft picks help the white sox faster than milledge? still waiting on an answer to this question ps. Mets ERA - 3.71 - 4th in the majors White Sox ERA - 4.56 - 20th in the majors The White Sox will not contend in 2007 or 2008. And Lastings Milledge is surely not going to put the White Sox over the top. Please, just stop. And calculate those ERA's minus bullpens. You said rotations, not pitching staffs.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:21 AM) What helps a team contend sooner - a top prospect, attitude issues or not (consentual sex with a girl who was 2 years younger than him, high fiving fans after hitting a home run, and a rap song with explicit lyrics) or 2 compensatory draft picks? the sox don't have the luxury of rebuilding? what do you see in your near future then? your team is garbage! the only thing you can do is rebuild crede = garbage iguchi = garbage uribe = garbage dye = garbage erstad = garbage podsednik = garbage thome = old konerko = old bullpen = garbage rotation = declining Why are you here again? Thome and Konerko are old, while their combined age is probably half of Glavine + El Duque. And you want to talk about declining rotations? Ha.

Trade CL Bobby Jenks & OF Brian Anderson to the Braves For C Jarrod Saltalamacchia MLB & RP Joey Devine AA & SS Elvis Andrus A+ That is about as impossible of a trade as you'll ever see.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:08 AM) rotoworld june 19th: Lasting Milledge has resumed running and hitting and could play in games at Triple-A New Orleans in around two weeks. Milledge has been out since spraining a ligament in his foot in late April. you wouldn't take milledge because he sprained a ligament in his foot? I never said that. But I certainly wouldn't trade Mark Buehrle for him straight up. And since he "could" play games in about 2 weeks, and considering he'd need about a week to get his feet wet, he won't be playing in the MLB for at least 3 weeks from the 19th, that being July 10th. Thats not that soon. QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:11 AM) He is saying Milledge isnt as great as your making him out to be and is saying your as much of a homer as your accusing many posters on this site of being. ^^^ That.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:04 AM) he didn't fall out of the rankings. he graduated because he played too many games in the majors. and yes... he is on the D/L. he will be off the D/L soon. Soon? He just started jogging again 6 days ago.

QUOTE(Omar Minaya @ Jun 26, 2007 -> 02:00 AM) you'd take two compensatory picks instead of a guy who has been ranked one of the best prospects in baseball the last few years? god in heaven. And who has also fallen out of the Top 100 prospects list and has a bad ankle?

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Jun 25, 2007 -> 10:51 PM) Did you see how they won today? They were up 8-4 in the 9th, and the Rockies took a 9-8 lead, until the 0-5 Alfonso Soriano took the bat up to the plate, and singled in 2, and made himself 1-6. Yeah, and one of their fans ran out on the field barefoot and went after Howry.