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QUOTE(Contreras @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 04:44 PM) The general Sox fan internet population suffers from occasional bouts of temporary stupidity when "prospect" pitchers are involved. I submit the follwing for evidence (we've seen it time and again): Sox fan hears Player a is being traded. Player a is a random mid-round pick from 4 years ago. He's 25 years old. He's a couple years older than his peers. He's never dominated in the minors to any degree, but the Sox of course call him a prospect. This is not suprising, because the Sox call all of their minor leaguers "prospects with great tools." To back this up they give Sox fans useful statistics like "in rookie league 2004, player a held left-handed hitters to an amazing .017 batting average in day games during the second week of July when no one was on base and a slight drizzle was falling sideways from a south-southeasterly direction." Sox fans naturally reply with "Wow! We need him in our bullpen to get lefties out! No one can hit him! He's the next Hoyt Wilhelm!" or "We're trading him for WHO??!??!?! He's an amazing prospect, we need to be getting at least a Carl Crawford or Vernon Wells for him!!!" Sox fans love to ignore the giant elephant in the middle of the room when "prospects" are involved in any situation that could be conceived as detrimental to their "progress." That giant elephant being that every pro scout not on the Sox payroll says that player a is a heap of dog doodie... Anyway, the moral of the story is this, folks: NO ONE OUTSIDE OF THE WHITE SOX ORGANIZATION CONSIDERS SEAN TRACEY TO BE A GREAT PROSPECT! You won't see him on any list of notable prospects. Settle down! What we have here is either: 1) a non-prospect, unimportant minor league callup that thinks he doesn't have to listen to Ozzie 2) a non-prospect, unimportant minor league callup that is unable to plunk a 6'1" 200 lb target when he's really trying to In either case, he's not worth worrying about and does not belong on a major league club, let alone one in contention. If Ozzie yelling at him makes him tear up like a little girl with a skinned knee, how could he ever handle the pressure of a playoff game? Sean Tracey is not worth worrying about and we now have the talented and proven Mr. Riske here to take his spot. Hopefully Kenny can work his magic and turn Tracey, under the guise of him being a "prospect" into a piece of a trade for another dependable relief arm around the deadline. Sean Tracey...He Gawn! Oh, and you need to stick around. Post more.
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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 11:43 AM) The question that needs to be asked is.....why would Ozzie send Tracey in to hit somebody?? Even if you 100 percent agree with the move, Tracey has the worst control on the team and would be most likely to miss by far. Oh my goodness. Everyone is playing the "no control" card. GMAFB. Tracey could have hit Blalock if he wanted to. I am a high school pitcher and when my coach told me to bean someone, I hit him dead in the ribs. Right where he told me to. This was a game in which I walked 4 batters in 1 1/3 innings. I had no control and still beaned the guy who was showing us up. It's not hard hitting someone with a pitch. It is in fact hard hitting the corners of a 16 inch plate. He told Tracey to retaliate because he is a rookie and is least valuable. If he was to get suspended, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. If it was Vazquez, then it would. No control. Please.
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Official Soxtalk 2006 World Cup Thread
SoxFan1 replied to DePloderer's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 04:33 PM) England has more talent on their squad than both of those teams SF1. Germany as the height to play with them, Ecuador will be defeated by the English when they play. The only hope they have is if the English get poor midfield play. England has more talent than any other team sans Brazil. Everyone knows that, but they played Paraguay and Trinidad & Tobago. Those are not the kinds of teams England will face in the 2nd round. Teams of greater caliber will be able to capitalize on the numerous mistakes that England makes. And don't sell Ecuador short. They are for real. Probably the most fit team in the tournament. Talent doesn't equal championships all the time. Look at the Yankee's of the last few years. Or the Red Sox sans 2004. -
Official Soxtalk 2006 World Cup Thread
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QUOTE(DePloderer @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 04:03 PM) Bring it on. You might be regretting that later on. -
QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 02:05 PM) I got you beat... and not in green. Michael Jackson.
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Official Soxtalk 2006 World Cup Thread
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Holy s***, Sweden finally scores in the 89th minute. Ljungberg with the header. Wow. Paraguay needs to tie it to stay alive. EDIT: And Sweden wins it 1-0. What a finish. Paraguay, Costa Rica, and Poland are gone. -
QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 03:26 PM) You realize this is the Czech Republic flag, right? Most definitely.
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Official Soxtalk 2006 World Cup Thread
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QUOTE(DePloderer @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) 6pts and into the next round without firing on all cylinders. Job done. I need say no more. Sure, the job is done but thats where it might stop. Any other team would take advantage of the numerous mistakes England has made. This is probably the worst group in the entire World Cup. England and Sweden have all the talent but are making the most mistakes. England gets lucky on an own goal and then takes advantage of a fatigued Trinidad & Tobago. Sweden has so much talent as well and is still yet to score a goal. Then you have Paraguay who hasn't done anything yet and Trinidad & Tobago hanging on by the skin on their teeth too. Definitely the worst group IMO. If England wins Group B, they will play either Germany or Ecuador, and both will be quick to capitalize on their mistakes. -
QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 03:24 PM) 37 of them... Why wouldn't I...? What did you do with the old Steff!?!?!
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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 03:16 PM) Flash, you quite possibly have the best avatar in the history of the world.
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QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 03:19 PM) There is no need for this. I don't read the damn papers and count on 99.9% of my news from you guys. You don't have to be ignorant. You kind of just defended me, almost, maybe, kind of. What the hell is going on!
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After reading the article in the Sun-Times, the 1st thing that popped into my head was Frank Robinson crying after he took out Matt Lecroy because they stole on him at will. Good times. Suck it up Tracey.
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QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 03:04 PM) s***, get a paper or read the article online. It's all over the place. Touche.
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Thanks everyone for not answering my question!
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 02:03 PM) I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night Well, you're in luck because I happen to enjoy those commercials.
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Official Soxtalk 2006 World Cup Thread
SoxFan1 replied to DePloderer's topic in Alex’s Olde Tyme Sports Pub
Sweden has had far more chances than any other team in this World Cup and they have yet to score a goal in 135 minutes. At the half, nil-nil. -
QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:55 PM) Chances of that are... remote I hate you.
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I met R. Kelly but I don't want to talk about it.
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Official Soxtalk 2006 World Cup Thread
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QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:09 PM) Score of the England game? Does anyone have a video link to Kaviedes running around with the mask on after he scored? 2-0 England on a 84th minute header from Beckham to Crouch and a 90th minute shot from Gerrard. -
QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:38 PM) WOOOHOOOO! GOOD FOR YOU!! Now, seriously, if you have stories to tell like that, keep it to a PM. I don't care what's going on over there, and neither does just about everyone else here. I still dont get the intentionally blank thing in your sig.
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I missed the last 3 innings because I watched A Fistful of Dollars. What happened between Ozzie and Tracey?
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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:33 PM) Alright boys, if I wanted to sit in an english class today, I would have applied to school, written a check and sat in my seat. Turns out, I didnt. I mean, I'm just sayin...
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This bullpen looks a lot better with Riske in it.
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QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jun 15, 2006 -> 01:11 PM) Yes I do. To me the press release read as Riske was traded for Lopez and the optioned player Tracey. Why is that so impossible to comprehend? Semicolons seperated independant clauses. The semicolon in questiopn seperates "Riske acquired for Lopez" and "Tracey optioned to Charlotte."
