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Gotta love the nog.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) Either way, if they got him that's a big target to go down. And yes, I know, others will take his place. Yes, and yes. But here's hoping. . .

QUOTE(Soxy @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 03:45 PM) Drank a bunch of that last night. Really a very light tasting wine and pretty tasty. Very easy to drink a lot of it though. . .A lot. Thanks for the recommendation Flaxx! Glad you found it and gave it a spin. Ours just showed up today, so we will get a chance to tray a bottle or three over the next couple of days.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) In sort of related news: Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice helped to negotiate a deal between Israeli and Palestinian authorities regarding Gaza border crossings. This is a milestone for the administration - in that its finally actually getting into the down and dirty work of multilateral diplomatic negotiation. Something it has seemingly resisted for several years. Good to see the administration doing the right thing here. Agreed.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) So offer us a solution. What would you have us do? A solution to the GWB administration deceit, since that is what the thread was about? Or the Iraq situation? As for the Iraq situation, let's follow the advice of Murtha and (more substantively) General Casey. Begin drawing down troops after the December election. [The December election, the earlier provisional parliment vote, the constuitution and the referendum vote all represent their own can of worms, of course. But if the administration has hung its hat on the meaningfulness of this process by which the Sunnis that are the source of the insurgency become still more bitter bitter and disillusioned, then let's make that the milestone they want it to be and begin redeployment after the election]. As for the administration, the deceits need to be laid bare. What that means for individuals in the administration politically and/or legally is less important than what it will mean for the "legacy" of this very dark presidency. The whole country is going to be dragged through the mud in the process, and it seems like those who sowed the seeds of this don't really care.

The first couple Alanis Morrisette albums remain a guilty pleasure of mine, so no argument here. The perfect pop song, with just the right amount of catchy hooks, a melody that gets in your brain, and substance as well as form is Todd Rundgen's "I Saw the Light."

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 20, 2005 -> 08:11 AM) but foreign officials still took money to not go to war, right? Anytime our "friends" look really adament about not going to war, but turn out that they took money to take that position, I'm going with our side. By our side, do you mean the America that has come around to the facte thet they were hoodwinked, or the administration who refuse to give up on a losing strategy because the can't ever accept that the war and everything about it was ill-conceived? I'm not a financial guy, but my brother was. he was the classic over-aggressive trader who I watched lose a bundle on several occassions when his arrogance wouldn't allow him to admit he had a poor position in the market and would 'cut and run' when he should have. It only cost him milions of dollars and not thousands of lives. But think the analogy to the GWB administration's intractable and unchanging position on the war is appropriate.

If in fact the Woodward/hadley story does break today or tomorrow, I would have been hard pressed to find a story that could overshadow that in importance. I would have been wrong. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...-home-headlines It's a long (13 page) expose', and I'm only part way through it. Part of page 1 is pasted below. But it presents evidence from the German intelligence agents who were Iraqi defector "Curveball's" handlers for 6 years on how the White House completely ignored their warnings that Curveball's information on WMDs was unreliable, vague, often second-hand at best and in many cases apparently made up. They also ignored warnings that Curveball was also an unstable nutjob. Despite the current Cheney/Bush counteroffensive calling their dissenters reprehensible when they question their integrity on intelligence handling, here is yet another documented instance in which the White House cherry picked what they needed from intel they knew was bunk, padded the info on bio weapons where they needed to (see atricke), and presented it as fact to Congress and the country without sharing the reservations about the value of the intel. How can 100% of the country see that the claims from the White House now that 'Congress saw the same intel as the White House' are flat out bunk? I hope this story has the legs it should heve and we start to hear from a variety of ongresspersons from both parties stting specifically that they NEVER SAW anything indicating that the tweaked intel reports were full of embellished versions of information that the administration had been warned was unreliable, unverifiable, an unuseable.

The British press is saying that tomorrow's NYT is going to break a story confirming that Hadley was in fact Woodward's source as had been widely speculated last week. The story is from Michael Smith of Downong Memo fame. If Hadley has testified before the First Fitz GJ then obviously he did not reveal his contact with oodword in this issue. That's a purjery indictment right there regardless of whether his lawyars weasel him out of the leak rap on a a legal technicality.

QUOTE(Benchwarmerjim @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 09:18 PM) I know this was a big deal on Friday and people were getting excited again at the prospect at more indictments But didnt Fitzgerald say at the one press Conference for the Libby deal that the investigation wasnt over and that we would need a new Grand Jury because the other GJ had the be released form the duties because they just ran out of time Yes, there is a seated grand jury ready to hear evidence. And Woodward was deposed Mondey I think, so once the new GJ gets read in on all of the past GJ testimony I'm sure they will be presented with the Woodward deposition as a starting point.

QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 05:28 PM) Not so much "terrorist love" here anymore? Hmmmm. There never was any "terrorist love" around here, despite what deluded Brother Izzy may have conveyed. :headshake

BAGHDAD, Iraq Nov 19, 2005 — A suicide attacker killed at least 36 people and wounded 50 more in a Shiite funeral procession Saturday north of Baghdad, while a car bomb near a market just outside the capital killed 13 and wounded 21, police said. The U.S. military also said five soldiers were killed Saturday and five were wounded in a pair of roadside bombings in northern Iraq. The soldiers were assigned to the 101st Airborne Division and were on patrol near Beiji, 155 miles north of Baghdad, the statement said. A day earlier, a soldier from the 101st Airborne whose vehicle was rammed by an Iraqi car Thursday near Beiji died of his injuries at a German hospital, the military said. At least 2,090 members of the U.S. military have died since the war began in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) Knowledge is power.... Knowledge is Power. Power Corrupts. Study Hard. Be Evil.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 05:58 AM) Ok, to be fair, the plans were already being started. You know this, so let's not politicize it like these pubes in Washington. Of course the plans were already started, if they are now in Rummy's hands. For that matter, obviously Murtha did not wake up Thurday morning and decide out of the blue to call for a drawdown to commence. He's been thinking about all the options as well. But for GWB to right now be adamantly saying 'No! No! No!' to any thoughts of moving toward a troop drawdown while a Democratic Rep and the ranking military officer on the ground in Iraq are at the same time saying 'this isn't working, lets adjust, move on and eventually out' . . . we'll that tells you who is really out of touch. But really, so what if the General's proposed plan took two weeks or two months to come together. The fact remains that he is advising a plan that amounts to the "cut and run" after December elections that was publicly derided Thursday by the White House and yesterday by the GOP Congress. Should they not feel teh same about this newly offered plan? As far as timing and many people on both sides wondering how prudent Murtha was on Thursday, it appeears now that he couldn't have timed it better. The White House now cannot lay legitimate claim to ownership of the 'new direction' when they inevitably come to the conclusion that they are on a path to nowhere.

I suppose the next act of political genius ( ) on the part of the GOP Congress will be when one or another of the meatheads calls General Casey a coward because he's officially put forward a plan to "cut and run". I guess it's OK if he's not a Marine. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/11/18/...plan/index.html

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 08:01 PM) All this talk of Greek letters is bringing back fond memories of sorority days gone by. You mean Sister was a . . . Sister?!? Must have been like being a kid in a candy store. I Kid Because I Care®

QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) Don't make me "teabag" pic you again! Point taken.

QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 05:59 PM) Pasties are awesome!

QUOTE(bmags @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 06:06 PM) rosencrants and guildenstern are dead? One of my fave flicks.

The new Ohio Rep, Jean Schmidt ( R ) completely stepped in it. She said "Cowards cut and run; Marines never do," and got a blistering response from the other side of the aisle. Then she realized she basically called Murtha a coward and most of the country that has touned against the war cowards and came back to the microphone about 5 minutes later and very meekly stated, "I remove my comments from the record." Nice that you can take a Mulligan when you put your foot in your mouth in Congrass.

Sounds like the Dems are holding their own and actually gettting a chance to debate the war in and around this sham procedural vote. Tierney and especially McGovern are saying the right things - denouncing the GOP version of the "Democrat resolution" and pretty much making this stunt blow up in the GOPers faces. I hope C-Span replayes this in its entirety so I can see it all.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 05:30 PM) This was old TD 27 if I remember right....and when it was declared extratropical is when it started to get it's crap together. Now what's after Gamma? Delta? Yes, but I will shave my head and wear a mu-mu to work if we got a delta this year. No way.

QUOTE(DePloderer @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 04:54 PM) Pork Pie; A succulent nugget of minced pork, cradled in flavoursome stock jelly, wrapped in crisp water pastry. Heavenly. Click, read and marvel. What? No blood, organ meats, or jellied eels??

The pubes keep referring to their sham resolution as the "Democrat resolution" as well, even though it bears no resemblance to what Murtha actually put forward. f***ing assholes.

Unreal. House for sale. Cheap.