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Well people who kill 17 year old girls by strangling he with his belt, then beat her in the head with a hammer 27 times, then rape her while she was unconscious then come back stab her 4 times. And as an extra insult he ripped her clothes off just so her privates would be exposed. If there is any other words that can describe him I would like to know.

Yeah well tell the families that so called LWOP Kenneth McDuff murdered. With overcrowding there is no gaurentee that they will get life in prison. And oh I love the so called punishment of life in prison, 3 square meals a roof over your head. The bleeding hearts will soon make it to where prisoners must get a stake dinner for there meals.

How many innocent men have we executed? Most likely the same number of people who spent their life in prison even though they were innocent. By the way the person confesed to the killing.

Yes, Just responding to the personal insult that was thrown at me. I didn't appreciate being called a blood thirsty self evangelist.

Wow I don't even know where to start. OK inhumane??? WTF what about the stuff these thugs do to innocent victims. Keeping them in prison fine tell the at least 9 victim's families that Ken McDuff killed after he was granted parole you can't guarantee these thugs will be locked up for good unless the DP is used. DNA evidence on the murder weapon is pretty conclusive evidence. The Death Penalty is case you have forgotten is in use in 38 out 50 states so I guess all the people that live in those states are blood thirsty as well. This post has been edited by the Soxtalk staff to remove objectionable material. Soxtalk encourages a free discussion between its members, but does not allow personal attacks, threats, graphic sexual material, nudity, or any other materials judged offensive by the Administrators and Moderators. Thank you.

I am not saying that I totaly disagree with evolution I really don't know what to believe I just giving you guys the same stuff I hear down here

Ok lets agree to disagree. You have valid points and I think I have some vaild points

Well I consider my uncle being suddenly cured from terminal caner when 3 weeks earlier when his wife was told to make him comfortable he will be dead in 2-4 weeks. Even the doctor from UM said it was a miracle beyond science. Also a friend who was in a terrible car crash in which she was drug 91 feet, half of her face was torn off and failed a brain test what ever it's called and the doctor told her mother to pull the plug but the mother prayed about it then mysteriously the next day the mother went to touch her and she pushed her hand off her the doctor performed another test and she passed again the doctor said science had no answer for this. Granted she still does have a long recovery. That is what I mean I should have stated it better

I was refering to crimson on his response that he didn't believe in God

Oh you should make a trip down here to the south if you think I am bad, I get criticised because I don't believe in it more strongly. You should ask BHAM how it is in Bama I feel sorry for him being a liberal down there.

I do understand but have to wonder why it is unacceptable to at least present other theories do exist

So all the bible and all of history is all made up? All of the modern day miracles are all lies? Jesus was nothing but a lie?

I will not change my stance on the issue just like I don't see any other southerners doing it either.

Personally no I don't but hey I am not in control of what is taught an what isn't the Governor is and they have made it clear that evolution will come with an asterik

I am going to end this discussion by saying that I will be praying for you.

Surely you believe in god?

Well they are also in Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina and Georgia and no it not embarrassing. Evolution is not well thought of around here. I don't see what the problem is letting the kids decide what is true and what isn't. By not putting a disclaimer on the book that makes it sound like evolution is a proven fact which it is not. I am not saying we need to teach ID or creation but at least let the kids have a choice.

Actually no I am not, All I am looking for is like here in Tennessee where there is a disclaimer on the book that says evolution is not a scientific fact

I also think telling people that evolution is the only theory is being dishonest and misleading.

And neither does Evolution

All that needs to be said is that evolution is a theory and that there is also a theory of creation.

You think it is that easy, just let him out of his cell after 30 years. First of all he is institutionalized with all of old prison habits and in over 60% of these cases the person ends up committing another crime. Secondly how do you just give back 30 years of a man's life?

But when thugs like this get parole and kill 5 or 10 others that's ok? Is one thugs life worth more than 10 innocent lives? You don't think 20-25 years is enough time to get evidence to get a trial?

While I don't have an opinion on ID, I do believe that alternatives to evolution should be mentioned in science classes.

Next up Chris Roney from PA: On January 6, 1996, around 8:30 in the morning, Christopher Roney and accomplice Mark Canty entered a Philadelphia bank dressed as utility construction workers and forced several employees to open the bank vault at gunpoint. Canty went into the vault with two of the women while Roney held a third at gunpoint. Canty shouted to Roney, "Here comes the heat!" Roney relied, "Don't worry; I'll take care of them." At this time, Police Officer Lauretha Vaird, who was the first officer to respond to the silent alarm, approached the front door of the bank building. As she entered the bank, Roney fatally shot Lauretha in the abdomen and then ran past her through the front door. Meanwhile Canty fled from the bank through a side entrance, leaving his gun behind. Outside the bank, Roney exchanged gunfire with the second officer to arrive on the scene. Escaping the shootout, Roney jumped into a getaway vehicle, a green minivan driven by another accomplice, Warren McGlone, and the vehicle sped away. Later that morning the three men met at McGlone's home to discuss the robbery. In the meantime, police found the abandoned getaway vehicle and various pieces of the robbers' disguises. They also recovered two weapons lying on the ground outside the bank. One weapon was traced to a relative of Canty, who had discovered the weapon had been stolen. It had last been seen in Canty's possession. The other gun was traced to a friend of McGlone, who had purchased the weapon for McGlone. After being taken in for questioning, Canty and McGlone confessed to participating in the robbery. Roney was sentenced to death and the two accomplices received life sentences. Lauretha was 43 years old and had served for 9 years. She was a single parent raising two sons. A song named "Slipped Away, The Ballad of Lauretha Vaird" was written in honor of the fallen officer. I hope PA does the right thing and sends this thug to meet Tookie