Gregory Pratt

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 28, 2007 -> 03:29 PM) I am not trying to start anything here and I believe you when you say you talked to this person and he said that. However, Kemp didn't punch anyone. What Civic said about AJ not punching Cora is meaningless. It turned out that Kemp never punched Cron at all.

Can someone clarify Lester's cancer to me? Is it something that might recur, or are they SURE it's done, now that he's been treated? Because if there's the possibility that it'd recur, there's no way I'd deal for him.

There are, I'm sure, a handful of people that should come before Frank when it comes to a statue (not because they were better but because of time), but he definitely deserves one and I'm sure he'll get one. I don't think the White Sox would give Jackson a statue, btw.

What bothers me about this -- as I wrote about and posted earlier -- is that if it's true, some will say, "WRESTLING TAUGHT HIM THAT!" and I say, Shut up. That's absurd.

I've always thought the word asshole's treatment by filters and television censors to be funny. The "ass" part is okay, but the "hole" has to go. And yeah, Kemp's not coming here. A Billingsley/Ethier trade might work very well, if we can't keep Buehrle.

CONGRATULATIONS!

Benoit was probably doping his child because his child was mentally retarded and needed it to grow properly. As for your second question: yes, probably. Foley is head and shoulders above most wrestlers. Wrestling is a f***ed up industry in a lot of ways and it attracts f***ed up people. It is in a lot of ways a huge freak show. However, that isn't to say that it attracts the scum of the Earth and nothing but.

Buehrle was being real coy and sheepish in his post-game interview, though.

Buehrle's been better than Garland, IMO. Buehrle is better than Garland.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 11:06 PM) In a year or two, if you put together a rotation of Buehrle, Garland, Danks, Gio, and Gavin...that could be really, really, really good, and pretty darn cheap too. It could also be really really really bad. Just playing devil's advocate. I'd love if that rotation became a rotation for us, same as I'd love it if Haeger were in the rotation. I still believe in that kid's future.

From someone on another forum:

I'm just clarifying/

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 09:54 PM) It shouldn't be. Locked? Or a source of info? I disagree about the info. It's a great source. We're all wrestling fans posting what's reported and linking and so it's good for that.

I hope this thread doesn't get locked. It's a good source for all of us on Benoit information and the effects it's having on wrestling.

I hope he doesn't die. Seems like he won't.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 09:20 PM) Should be no surprise Contreras would wave his no trade. He waived one to come to the White Sox, saying the same thing. I may be the only one on this site that hopes the Sox keep him. I hope the Sox can find a way to keep him.

That strike three was pathetic by Cintron. Worst I've seen all year. It was CLEARLY down the middle, waist high, and he starts to fling his bat and head to first as if he'd been walked. It was a pathetic sight.

For all the b****ing you do about steroids/drugs in wrestling you seem to forget that baseball, football and basketball all have huge drug/steroid problems to deal with. Oh, and HOCKEY too, and it seems just as bad as anything in wrestling. http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2005/03/21/...book050321.html I don't know whether or not to refer to hockey as a sport or entertainment, though, since they're skating, for one, and nobody's watching, for another. /green Dunno why you're here trolling about wrestling and Benoit, though. PS: I don't think anybody's apologized for Benoit or made excuses for him or defended him. Some of us simply can't believe how tragic it's been. Some of us are stunned. I have talked about how disturbing it all is but have stated that I can't hate him for what occurred and won't and would like to learn more about what was going on with him and drugs and everything. I prefer to leave the biggest judgements to God.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 06:55 PM) Oh my god, because other sports athletes don't have drugs or commit violent crimes *cough some in the NBA are convicted criminals, Rae Carruth, Mike Vick, the high usage of HGH/steroids/greenies in baseball just for a small set of starters cough* Try running the ring ropes or taking a few chops or a few of the things they put their bodies through on a nightly basis before you spout off at the mouth and make yourself look like more of a dumb, ignorant motherf***er than you already appear. If you don't like professional wrestling, at least respect the risks they put themselves through for some peoples' entertainment. It's a certain modicum of respect given to any person. It's a tradition, really -- like the Illini football team having no front seven. I don't enjoy basketball but I don't go into threads and tell people I meet what I truly think of the sport and the people who play it on a professional level. Why? Because I'm not as much of a jackass and know that while it is not my cup of tea, it is still athleticism that I can respect because they train, practice and work their ass of to make money and entertain a segment of the population. Can I talk about teachers? Would you be upset if I used that as a segway into Dean Douglas?

Mackowiak's got to get the ball in faster than that.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 06:40 PM) This brings up memories of the Mass Transit lawsuit that I'm sure all the wrestling fans here will remember. Mass Transit told them he was older than he was and offered to get into the ring. He wanted to bleed. He asked New Jack to do it for him because "I don't know how to do it," so New Jack said yes. Here we go: Kulas lost the lawsuit, as he should've. And his father was an idiot for letting his seventeen year old kid pretend to be older. Kulas died during a gastric bypass weight loss operation a few years later.

I f***ing hate that "Can I Have It Like That?" commercial.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jun 27, 2007 -> 06:24 PM) Lots of drugs. No more than it takes to be a pro football player, baseball player or basketball player.

I wrote a little about Benoit and the situation's continuation on my blog this afternoon. False Finishes Remember what I talked about yesterday? You know, about opportunists in the media? It starts with this article, Chokehold May Have Killed Benoit's Son. Listen: Chris Benoit killed Chris Benoit's son, and whether he suffocated him with a pillow, crushed his throat with his hands or asphixiated him with his biceps is irrelevant to wrestling unless you're one of those people that still thinks wrestlers bleed with ketchup or some other makeshift device and want to blame a man on an industry. Anybody that tries to blame wrestling for this tragedy is shameless and those who believe it are fools who are falling for a false finish. Like I said yesterday, there are questions to be answered about antidepressents, steroids, the atmosphere backstage and the schedule they work under. But let's not pretend as the Atlanta Journal is or as CNN did that this has anything to do with wrestling. It doesn't. That doesn't mean I'm not putting any blame on the company, because I think it possible that they could've done more for Benoit (and for wrestlers in general) but the key distinction I'd like to make is that wrestling is not to blame, and I think my point and speculation are enhanced by this, which I read today. It's something to think about as a wrestler's schedule is brutal, and all the days of work certainly didn't help Benoit's psyche or his family, as it's clear he was abusing prescription drugs, taking steroids and slowly losing himself, as some wrestlers have alluded to changes in his character over the last several months. The author brings up the level of respect Benoit had from his co-workers, wrestling writers and fans such as myself, which is what makes it all the more apparent that something has to be done for the wrestlers, and that WWE might bear some responsibility, but for very different reasons than those Joe Pressbox is selling us on.