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QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 11:46 PM) Why do Thornton and Mac get a free pass when they were responsible for 2 key losses vs. the Twins and Oz is blamed for everything on here? I am just saying when those guys trot in there I am not confident. Can you honestly say you are happy when both come in?? Why do you give Ozzie a pass when he clearly has been asleep at the wheel this season for example; Letting Neal Cotts face Justin Morneau in a tight situation late in a game in a winable situation this season when Morneau is 5 for 7 lifetime against Cotts with a HR.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) Maybe their stats are good, but I wouldn't call either totally reliable. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. I don't get to see as many games as you all. You got to admit they sucked in both those outings which were not long ago. You are definatly wrong, Jenks/MacDougal/Thornton = The New Nasty Boys, The old nasty boys were Rob Dibble/Norm Charlton/Randy Myers

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 07:07 PM) I said halfway reliable starters we have two (Jon and Mark). Yes all those things were evident in June and KW could have done something about it. How is that Oz's fault. Rather than blame Ozzie which is the easy way out IMO, I personally don't think our team is pennant caliber when our starters are average to below average. Face facts. Our bullpen sucks with the exception of Jenks. Our starters have been s*** with the exception of Jon; despite the BA love, he has not been a productive hitter; Pods has been terrible. Uribe hasn't hit s*** this season. AJ has been pretty good. That leaves us with the four studs Dye, Thome, Konerko, Crede. They have had powerful years with the bat, but unable to carry a team with no starting pitching and a weak bullpen. Pitching always has been the name of the game. We ain't got it this year and HOW IS THAT OZZIE'S FAULT???? I love Oz. Go Sox! sorry i came late to the dance, but what f***ing team are you watching? Thornton and MacDougal are SICK, and some of the better set up men in the league, Riske is great in the 6-7th, Cotts this year is "teh sux" and McCarthy has been used wrong since day one and last year between intermitten stops in Chicago led the IL in strike outs, he doesn't suck and he isn't just going to be a "#3 starter", McCarthy has shown flashes of brilliance late last season. Brian Anderson is hitting .303 in his Last 30 Days, and is increibly productive. Ozzie is blowing games where we could've already taken the divison.

QUOTE(TaylorStSox @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 04:23 PM) Awesome! We could really use another average defender and underachieving kid with dominant stuff. I'd take an average defender that more than makes up for it with his bat, has a great aproach at the plate, and wants to be on a contender, and a underachieving kid *who KW tried to aquire this past trade deadline, because Coop has identified something that Mazone hasnt* ala Matt Thornton, than a slick fielding short stop that was tought he has to hit off the island but can't hit for long periods of time.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 04:21 PM) Most of the posters over at WSI think Ozzie is doing just fine. ii know they think im crazy...

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 04:09 PM) All of which make him a very valuable trade piece, btw. If Logan can come up behind him and do a decent job...Cotts can turn into something very useful next year. thats what im saying, deal Jose + Uribe + Cotts + Gload, to Baltimore, now some here are going to say "beautox your crazy", but the truth is Baltimore doesn't have an "ace" or anyone who can remotely dominate, Chris Benson i think not, they need a 1B, and i come from the school of thought that Gload can put up Mark Grace like numbers 300+ avg 15-20 HRs, Uribe for because they're going to need a SS, and Cotts because of his age, past sucsess, salary, and the fact he is left handed, remember we got David Riske for MILB free agentl Javy Lopez, that speaks highly of how much LOOGYS are in demand, and we also go Rob Mackowiak for Damaso Marte. we get Tejada and Daniel Cabera

Your a Hack Ozzie, Your a Hack!

I hope Ross goes to winter ball and learns how to play LF

QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 03:49 PM) White Sox will need a major overhaul in the off-season...the pitching sucks. Kenny made the trades he thought would get us another ring this year, but its not going to happen...we are being done by .220 hitters, AAA players, and pitchers with +6 eras, losing to the likes of Tampa and KC, teams going nowhere. We are old, can't run, aren't smart, have a manager who seems to manage his pitchers differently depending on their birthplace. We are in a division competing with teams with some of the best young talent in baseball, much of it due to blossom next year with even Cleveland starting to look better. This team, as it stands now, has no chance to compete next year and is looking more and more like a 4th place team. We have the "names" to reload and its time to. This team is finished. I'm going camping, later. Agreed, Jose + Gload + Uribe + Cotts to Baltimore for Tejada + Daniel Cabera.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 03:49 PM) ozzie manages like a mental patient. You have 3 guys who throw upper 90s and can strike out guys. You have a new lefty who hits 95 and has a funky lefty delivery. So you start the 8th by trying to get your relative the win, instead of the team. Then you bring out a contact flyball pitcher named neal cotts who has a mid 6 ERA and a mid 2 WHIP. Then you back it up with another flyball contact pitcher. And then you have a SS playing on the edge of the grass. He too can also stike people out and hes good at getting the GB.

QUOTE(Chisox_fan @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 03:47 PM) It's riduculous how much praise Bmac gets when he puts 3 spot on the board. I like the guy as much as everyone else but he should be able to hold it. How? hes a fly ball pitcher, and he hasn't been good close and late, and i know im a Bmac defender but he has been misused all season.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 03:45 PM) Bakowned. but im still angry.

f***!!!!!!

4 pitch walk....

1 down, .... come on Mac stick it in Ozzies face.

Ozzie just wants to put McCarthy on a cross, so he can proudly announce he isn't are savior, and he isn't a good pitcher, hes setting up to fail.

Now McCarthy is in, no offense but wtf? bring in Matt

¿GIDP Por Favor?

ZOMG Neal f***ing Cotts...Ozzie you are stupid.

Ozzie just loves killing our chances....

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 12:19 PM) What the hell kind of name is Kason anyway? Did someone's finger slip on the keyboard when typing out his birth certificate? They wanted Jason but at that point it was just too late.

Only 1 person in 2 billion will live to be 116.

i can't believe they actually gave up a decent prospect to aquire him in catcher Chris Robinson. He hit .286 with a homer and 47 RBIs at Single-A Lakeland

Back end of the BP is filthy. MB with keeping them to 3. Nice work sox.