StrangeSox

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 08:22 AM) There is only no real organization when it suits them as in to avoid responsibility. Explain how they are responsible for violent police actions.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 08:13 AM) Are you really now accepting the right wing criticisms of occupy? I don't see it as a valid 'criticism' of the message but it's a valid statement of fact. There is no national organization or structure to the movement such that you can excuse police actions as some sort of justified reaction to #ows tactics.

Child labor laws generally prevent 9-14 year old from working outside of family businesses. Newr would like that changed. There is no stretch.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 07:50 AM) If you want to buy into the theory that randomly across the nation that completely separate forces just keep spontaneously breaking into acts of violence, based on narrow cross-section videos, have at it. I'm not buying it. It is much easier to understand that one movement is using the same playbook at all of these different places to get the same response, especially when it benefits occupy way more than it benefits the authorities. Violent police over-reaction isn't novel to #ows, and one of the big criticisms of the movement is a lack of organization. Can you explain what would justify these actions?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 07:40 AM) Which is the whole point. The only reason people are paying attention, is because now they are enticing violence and sympathy. This was already fading into obscurity, which is why it has been taken to this level now. There is some truth to this. No one was paying attention in the first place until nypd pepper sprayed people for no reason. However, it seems disingenous to claim that these sport of violent actions from the police were enticed. Watch that video and tell me what those protestors did to entice that officer into his actions, or the other recent event where police started violently beating a line of protestors. You can say that such violent authoritarian responses are to be expected, but that is an indictment, not a justification.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 07:08 AM) You need to take the whole meaning of what he is saying. Get off you ass and work, learn responsibility, take that burger job, whatever, just do it. Quit letting people tell you that you shouldn't. He used janitors as an example. You need to take in the whole meaning of advocating against child labor laws and in favor of young children working beca use they are poor. He also was specifically ranting against union workers, and the whole idea of ending poverty by firing adults from decent-wage jobs and replacing them with children is pretty funny. He was arguing against laws that restrict children 9-14 from working. You can't get around that. His idea is just dumb, anyways. Again, how is this man taken seriously?

Thanks tex, couldn't put it any better.

Some ordinances were violated, so clearly any and police use of force is justified.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 20, 2011 -> 10:54 PM) He is saying stop thinking you are too good to work at McDonalds because everyone needs to start somewhere. Geeze, over-react much? he is calling for dropping the minimum age to work and replacing union janitors with school children. Read the interview.

god f***ing damnit it's payback for last year's complete lack of injuries.

Lovie isn't the only coach to make the really dumb to-challenge combo.

It is impossible to coach turnovers! Luck!

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) welcome to Obama's America. He can't have people protesting the entites that give him the most bribes, err campaign contributions.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 01:39 PM) Unreal. Where are we? China? Amerikkka

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 10:18 AM) You're delusional and purposefully blowing his statement out of proportion. You might as well have said Newt was calling for slavery to return. How am I blowing his statement out of proportion? He is literally advocating for displacing unionized janitors with poor children under the age of 14.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 10:12 AM) Obama, on the other hand, supports such sweatshops with his special deals for outsourcers that give him bribe money. Those kids are probably making Obama 2012 buttons. This is true

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 10:09 AM) If you can drive a car under the law, you're no longer a child. Nice spin attempt, but no. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Newt is advocating removal of child labor restrictions. 15 and 16 yo's can legally work already. The next paragraph: so, poor kids in poor schools should be put to work, displacing unionized janitors. Funny, but some of those kids' parents would be those same janitors, and now you've just depressed wages for janitorial work while also making their parents unemployed. That's a sure-fire way to rise up out of poverty. Again, why is this man taken seriously?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 09:50 AM) I dunno about 14, but I had a job when I was 16. Funny enough, it was part-time for the school district helping mow the lawns and whatnot at the various schools in my town... The horror! This is quite a bit different from Newt's call to abolish child labor laws so that we can replace union janitors with poor children. Newt's and jenks' vision for the wealthiest society on the planet:

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 19, 2011 -> 10:00 AM) It's much easier to "rise up" in life by depending on the government until you're at least 22, probably even later. #progressivethink Not everyone can get millions of dollars for non-lobbying for GSE's! Though it's nice to see you supporting Newt's call for abolition of child labor laws.

Newt supports union busting via child labor How is this man considered a serious candidate for President?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 18, 2011 -> 03:56 PM) You can only wear shoes that are the primary colors of your team. The Bears didn't choose orange as one of their primary shoe colors this season. So he gets fined. Stupid rule is stupid. The NFL truly is the No Fun League!11

I don't get it, why can't he wear orange shoes?

That's an interesting turn.

lol fox news "fair and balanced"