StrangeSox

circular semantic arguments are the best

It's whay we don't have 10+, but it ultimately failed to break the cycle.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 09:32 AM) I majored in Criminal Justice. I just happen to think "community policing" is garbage. I think its even worse when it adds in this element of ethnic pandering. You majored in criminal justice but don't see value in intelligence gathering from the community and want ridiculous punitive sentencing laws both of which kinda fly in the face of empirical evidence. Were your views on thischanged our formed by the classes you took?

There are no innocent muslims!

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 12:13 AM) And why the f*** is the FBI concerned with outreach to Muslims? you don't get how law enforcement and intelligence agencies work, do you?

Does this site support it? Any plans if not?

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 09:13 PM) Nice try, but I meant that the opinions of the Muslims and the Chinese don't matter when it comes to how American patriotism is practiced on American soil. I don't care what their opinions are on this topic, and if they're offended, so what? I'm done too. remember when i pointed out that there's no real source that it was about 'not offending muslims and chinese'?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) Huh? serf/lord vs. modern labor/employer relationship since he referenced being a subsistence farmer in France. Granted, standard of living is just a *bit* higher than a feudal peasant, but questions of actual economic liberty/agency for anyone not in the capitalist class (those with enough independent wealth who do not need to sell their labor) still lingers, especially if we're going to accept that business owners (lords) have rights to all of the profits of our labors and if we don't like it we can simply chose another business/lord to swear fealty to. A better explanation of the comparison would be quite longer but I certainly didn't generate it on my own, so better explorations are out there.

you should probably read the first page of this thread and then post in it: http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...0&start=150

instead we can be subsistence labor!

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 05:00 PM) Nope, he apologized. It's too late though, and we aren't buying it. I mean, the guy says he "let his words get the best of him". Really? Producing a song takes a long time, I would presume. He put the lyrics on paper, he sang them time and time again, they were surely reviewed by agents and producers and all kinds of things. This wasn't just some spontaneous outburst that looked really embarassing after the fact. This had far more time for review than some retarded meltdown like that of, say, Michael Richards or such. ok, the article you linked to earlier had the MT link and it was still up in the air

Isn't turning the flag into commercially sold articles of clothing considered against the flag code anyway?

A school administrator would have some influence over your children at his school.

IIRC in at least once of those cinco de mayo/american flag cases, the boys in question had antagonized Mexicans before and were vocally anti-immigrant, so wearing the flag on cinco de mayo was a deliberate act meant to incite a reaction.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 04:49 PM) Anyone hear about this Soulja Boi controversy? I'm not even mad about this. I thought he was an annoying, tacky rapper and I really find his act of career suicide to be refreshing. f*** the troops? Uh, ok, that'll be the end of you! If you have doubts, just check out his facebook page. Dude's getting reamed. Sucker. sounds like its inconclusive if its even him? http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battle-ratt...-troops-or-not/

FWIW Cinco de Mayo is primarily celebrated in the US and I think one province in Mexico.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) You're welcome. I tend to think there is some value in a player who has a high batting average. So do the advanced metrics. A higher batting average is inherently beneficial to OBP, OPS etc. It's just that they get a little deeper than what a BA can tell you.

So then why get upset over what some partisan student claims he said?

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 04:03 PM) Uh, yeah, sure. ok, so if we take that acknowledgement that we really don't know what Pastoor said with this: then you really don't have much of an objection. The quote is not a direct quote of what he said, so getting upset over it and then condemning him and 'multiculturalism' or 'PC' for it doesn't make a lot of sense. All we know is that they asked them to include flags representing the nationalities of individuals killed and provided the flags. The CR's can go ahead with putting up close to 3,000 American flags, belying the claim that they did this in an attempt to repress a patriotic, pro-America display. As far as him not responding, I'm doubtful that this will go anywhere outside of the ultra-conservative blogosphere, so why bother getting dragged into it? There's no way an administrator at a small lib arts college who suggested adding international flags is going to receive anything but hyperbolic reactions from that arena.

ok? Do you at least recognize that those were not direct quotes from Dr. Pastoor?

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:52 PM) Once again, in that particular quote, he comes off like a scared administrator trying to suck up to foreign students by making sure no offensive display of patriotism could take place. He's not talking about the individual flags, he's worrying what the Muslims might think of a crapload of American flags being displayed on campus. That's appeasement, not thoughtfulness. That quote is what the CR leader said he said, not a direct quote. 2700+ flags around campus is pretty f***ing patriotic. No one had any issue with putting out thousands of flags, just with the oversight of assuming all victims were Americans.

That quote is what the College Republican leader reported him as saying. The main contention was that there were no flags to represent the other nationalities that were killed. I was merely guessing at his motives, implying that we don't know what they were and melting down over it seems pretty ridiculous. If you read the partial email quotes provided in that article, that's exactly what they're saying: include Israeli flags for dead Israelis, Irish flags for dead Irish, etc. Various other memorials are planned around campus without issue, so this is hardly about "shunning patriots." We have no reliable source for what Dr. Pastoor actually gave as his reasoning.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:37 PM) With a quick google search, it looks to be significant. I found one all ecompassing figure of $133 billion from 2001. With 10 years to add on to that, I am sure that means we are somewhere between $200 and $250 billion. http://www.transalt.org/files/newsroom/mag...rovocateur.html Yearly reports by the ASCE decry just how far behind we are in maintenance and upgrades. http://blogs.asce.org/govrel/

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) He's not even talking about individual victims in that point. He's talking about what Chinese and Muslim students would think of a display of American flags. And frankly, I just don't see why we're supposed to give a s*** about that. The university wants to attract foreign students? I dunno. That snippet of the email sounds pretty dumb (don't see the whole thing linked in that article), but his specific reasoning for suggesting additional flags is kinda tangential to whether or not inclusion of the other flags is appropriate.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Sep 9, 2011 -> 03:37 PM) Then we should put out 2,730 flags. Let the Israelis and the Brits fly their flags for their victims on their turf. Regardless, this wasn't an attack on either of those countries or any country other than America. So I don't know why we need to go about acting like this was an attack on the world because some other nationalities perished. We were attacked and all we need is American flags. See, I find this abhorrent but at least it makes more sense than commemorating a dead Brit with an American flag. Why would commemorating all of the victims of 9/11 be a bad thing?