StrangeSox

Is there some kind of ongoing budget battle? This could be a PR move to get more resources/officers.

IIRC there was a case in California several years ago where the police took an inordinate amount of time to respond to a call, the woman was raped and I think killed, but there was no finding against the police department. maybe this is what I was thinking of? similar, but I think there's another one out there http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics...cotus.html?_r=0 pretty sure this is the one I was thinking of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

oh absolutely. and as I said earlier, that "cheapness" exists because the huge costs of carbon emissions aren't actually priced in.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 02:02 PM) Compare that to the national security concerns of a vast dependence on fossil fuels which are found overseas in highly unstable areas? Well, our coal and NG isn't really, right?

thanks, both of you

Ah, right, for some reason I thought it was ABC that broke the story. Regardless, it's being reported by every media outlet. Every lefty blog I've seen is condemning it and drawing comparisons to John Yoo's torture memo. e.g. here's democracy now! on this: http://www.democracynow.org/2013/2/5/kill_...aked_obama_memo

right, let's note who this came from: ABC.

aren't peak loads during the day, at least where solar is practical, because of A/C loads?

that memo is absolutely terrible

it's still more expensive per-kW since we don't price in the massive carbon externalities into fossil fuels.

solar power is becoming a lot cheaper: http://blog.uncommonwisdomdaily.com/solar-...ot-cheaper-9232

either way you're still going to be without a kitchen for some period of time! washing dishes in a utility sink gets old fast, but at least we had somewhere to cook

do it when it's warm enough to still grill outside

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 5, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) How much of the total charge was for the labor? I'm debating whether to try and do the work myself. I'm not changing the footprint of the kitchen. I just need to replace a lot of the finishing details - countertop, backsplash, appliances, etc. I MIGHT get new cabinets, but I'm going to see how it looks if I just change out the doors instead to give it a new look. $3 or $4k I think. It was worth it imo just to get the project done as quickly as possible. Ours was a full tear-out with updating the electrical and plumbing, removing a soffit and adding an island. As it was, we had to wait about 6 weeks without a kitchen while the counter tops were being made (they take final measurements after cabinets are installed to ensure an accurate fit, and then manufacturing is 4-5 weeks iirc). Compare that to the full bathroom gut-and-remodel I'm doing myself that I started in late October and still isn't finished... If you aren't getting new cabinets, that's a different story. You could leave your fully functional kitchen in place while they cut/fabricate your countertops and replace those in a weekend. Backsplash is really easy and we did that ourselves, 3-4 hours to tile, 1-2 hours to grout and clean the next day (Lowes and Hobo have good selection for that sort of stuff, HD and Menards suck and even the tile stores were limited for nice, not-$50-a-sq-ft glass tiles). Same with refinishing cabinets (did that for the bathroom).

we used this place in darien (75th & lemont) and were very happy with the results: http://www.showcasekb.com/ i could pm you a before/after picture if you want

kitchen=$$$

mildly successful, hampered by gun violence?

I knew that the glocks had larger magazines, GLtI said "And really, unless it's a .45, most handgun magazines carry ten rounds" so that's what I was going off of. apparently he meant "at least ten rounds" or "more than ten rounds"

right, I thought most proposals have a 10-round max, so your typical handgun magazine would be ok.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Feb 4, 2013 -> 04:18 PM) So are you advocating to make owning a gun more expensive to operate and own? If so, why are you so eager to price a right away from poor people? Do they not have the same rights as others? You would be willing to force people to spend hundreds or thousands to enjoy their RIGHT to bear arms, but yet have a cow when someone has to cough up $5 for a state ID to vote? I submit that your added expenses on gun ownership are just like a pol ltax, meant to keep poor people from defending themselves. You sir, are racist! (just kidding on that one) don't need to be kidding about that, there's a lot of racial oppression in the history of gun control laws. I think there's a legitimate point there about making it a right that's only accessible to the (relatively) well-off. otoh we essentially do that with automatic weapons and I think that's an example of a good, effective gun control scheme.

I'm actually more in favor a handgun ban than an AWB edit: and I still think that a registry and other tracking and enforcement provisions would be more effective than any ban that would inevitably grandfather in a ton of weapons.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Feb 4, 2013 -> 04:14 PM) Creating legislation that would negatively impact tens of millions of people for the sake of literally a single digit number of people is pretty much the definition of failing the strict scrutiny test. do tens of millions of people own firearms with magazines larger than 10 rounds? e.g. serious question. my fil, bil and grandfather all own a shotgun, but they wouldn't be impacted by magazine restrictions. isn't glock sort of the oddball with the 17 round magazine?

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 4, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) I sure as hell hope so...you think you should be awarded extra points or something for this? That he gets so angry at other drivers that he's actually thought about using deadly force (or at least threatening) is a pretty good example of why having guns everywhere is not the best idea.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Feb 4, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) You can agree or disagree with all of those assertions. But don't tell me I signed up because I believe in statism. That is ridiculous. My love for our homeland is why I did this. You can accept that or continue giggling like a school girl. I really don't care. You are literally the ultimate enforcement arm of the State.