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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 11:20 AM) That could work, too. It would give you a better idea of what her plans are. I think I know what her plans are. I would like to know a bit more so I can make my own...

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 10:58 AM) It isn't cap space though, we are talking about real money, if I'm not mistaken. Would a team pay 28 million for a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick? I'm not sure. I think I'd rather just use that money on free agents (or stash it until the team is ready to contend again). That's what I was saying...I know 1st round picks are the holy grail of NFL assets...but even one of those may not be worth $28 million in cash.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:49 AM) If you're not sure you have the money to live on your own out there, it's probably not a good idea to depend on living with someone you've only known/dated for three months. Plus already having a home and there being no discussion (even though it was an opportunity she couldn't pass up), it just seems like an easy choice to break it off amicably. How do you rate that versus just continuing to date until forced to make a decision?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:48 AM) I've always used the phrase "pretentious douche" to refer to appleheads. Hey shack someone said it was imperative I should get a case... Agree or no? I am a total Pretentious Douche then. I am assuming you have the iPad2, right? I think it is imperative you get a case, yes...unlike w/ the phones...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:25 AM) And that's what I can't figure out. If the guy is pretty likely to play next season, he's more than worth anything you'd give up in a reasonable trade. But I consume enough media to know that the reporters are salivating over covering the "Peyton Manning free agent pursuit!" story here in a week or two, and I can't figure out how it makes a lick of sense. Wait, I was with you until that last part...

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:13 AM) The latter part here is the only real issue to me. There are going to be at least 5 teams or so that would feel comfortable and well positioned enough to make that happen, and I'd give up a first rounder + some conditional picks to make sure I won the race for that QB... Unless he wasn't expected to be healthy. And if he isn't, then this whole "Free Agent Manning" derby isn't going to happen. I think it is sort of due diligence to at least explore it. And I think ultimately someone will probably pay up for him. But the fact that we are reading that they are considering releasing him sort of belies all the points you are making, does it not?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 08:53 AM) Whatever the total money is, that doesn't matter at all. If there's a team looking to turn themselves into a super bowl caliber team, he's worth more than that to a team and you know that. The big issue is the cap space. I disagree. He's going to be 36 when the season begins? The question is highly dependent on who you already have on your roster and what your financial situation is. Most teams aren't budgeting that kind of money for a qb unless that qb has already been on their roster. And you can't just start releasing players to create cap room. You have to pay penalties against the cap in most instances. So I don't think it's as easy as you would like to believe for a team to fit him on their roster. Then you're asking them to give up draft picks on top of that...I'm just not sure he's worth it unless you are fairly well-positioned to make something like that happen...and you really feel comfortable with his health.

I honestly don't have a problem with much of what you guys say in here...all I am saying is I don't think everything is quite as cut and dry or neat and clean as you and SS would like to think it is. I agree with what NSS posted, but of course expressed it in more of my usual rudimentary way.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:50 AM) It doesn't exist. And even if it did, it wouldn't be the driver of the science. Oh I know, science is the pure white light contrasted against the thick black crude oil of life.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) But there's not some giant multi-trillion dollar extant market heavily funding research that happens to lead to the conclusion that AGW is real. Not one, no.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:43 AM) I can't blame her for going, and making the decision on her own at this stage of the relationship. This is slam dunk/have to do move for her. Did you end up buying a place yet? Yes, I bought a home at the end of August. I would either rent my place or sell it. Probably rent it since I have someone that would like to do so and would put a few hundred bucks profit in my pocket every month.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:41 AM) Its happening! A few days ago you would have said "dick"! That's a sexist remark.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 09:20 AM) If I had $40 million in cap space, I'd absolutely risk that. I'd probably try my darndest to sit down with Manning and renegotiate part of that deal, which he might well do because he'd be aware that having his whole bonus hit the cap that year would hurt any chance he had of having a winning team around him. But if I'm again, the Jets, and I had to cut the Sanchize and give up a first and a conditional pick or something like that to put Manning on my roster, it happens. But it's not just cap space. It's a $28 million roster bonus plus $23 million in cap space, correct?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 08:18 AM) Now really, no there isn't. There may be some money in that effort, but fossil fuels in general are the biggest traded commodity on Earth. They dominate every energy market. This is a multi trillion dollar market every year. Dozens of other industries (plastics, various types of manufacturing) rely overwhelmingly on their existence. They receive government subsidies on the order of hundreds of billions of dollars a year globally. People keep going to war in places that have them. The amount of money that can be made from somehow proving that drastic action is necessary and that a multi trillion dollar market needs to be completely dismantled pales in comparison to the money available to support inertia in that market. Tuvalu just isn't worth that much. The fact that all those commodities are of limited supply is the very reason why alternatives would be every bit as much, if not more lucrative as the current fossil fuels. The fossil fuels themselves are not the valuable commodity here. The valuable commodity is the behaviors and the way of life those fossil fuels have allowed for us.

Good conversation. I have to agree with Badger as to the ridiculously arbitrary nature of some statutory laws. I just don't know that I have a better solution than the current one other than that the ages should be lowered so that there is less of a question as to whether consent occurred. We ask a lot of our teenagers these days, and we expect a lot. I find it a bit odd that we could entrust a person to operate a motor vehicle but not be intimate with another human being, even if they happen to be over the age of 17.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 08:14 AM) Fine, if he's worth a first and a conditional 3rd, that's a helluva lot more value than "getting nothing for releasing him". If you've got a contending team and that's all it takes to get Peyton Manning, even though it hurts your cap space, I think it's crazy to expect no one to give that up. If I was the Jets, I'd give that up without a second thought. Which means, expecting him to be released, like everyone seems to be doing, is just insane to me. But is a first round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick worth $28 million?

I'm really not sure how one can believe that there is only money or ill-gotten gains to be received from one side of this argument....there is just as much money (if not more) to be made from "proving" that immediate and drastic action is necessary than is to be made by continuing our current ways.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 07:50 AM) So, I need help. It seems like the media everywhere are in agreement that Peyton Manning is going to wind up released by March 8th. Maybe as soon as next week. I can't figure this out. If he's saying he's healthy enough to play and expects to be back, why wouldn't he be tradeable? Is it impossible to do trades until after that date? I know the Colts might not get 7 first rounders for him if they're under the gun, but I can't believe he wouldn't fetch a Carson Palmer level deal, with maybe a contingent draft pick or two extra, before that date, if he was allowed to be traded. All I can say is this sort of reminds me of when a very highly paid baseball player goes on waivers, and no one claims him. While Peyton Manning has indisputably been one of the best quarterbacks ever, is he going to be the same player ever again? Is he going to be worth $23 million/year? Is a first round draft pick worth whatever that roster bonus is going to cost the Colts? I just don't think he's going to be worth much more than a first round pick or a first and a third with the amount of money he is slated to make, and we have been debating this for a month or two now.

Oh, perhaps some more details are necessary, because that didn't even strike me as something that she should have asked me about...so I guess there was an understanding on our part that I haven't made clear. Or maybe I am just an idiot. So I have been aware from the first date that she was from LA and wanted to eventually get back there...but we thought the way she would do so would be through starting her own bakery business as opposed to getting promoted in her current job. The two of us have been looking at the best way to start this business of hers, and so we've talked about the best markets for it and such. We were talking Sunday and I even said something like "If I want to date you, I have to be willing to eventually relocate to LA." She works for an italian company that makes super high-end shoes/boots/bags. Her boss called her yesterday and said "The CEO is very impressed with you. You've been the only GM in the US to exceed same-store sales for the last 6 consecutive months. He is aware that you have expressed interest in having a store in CA before, and he happens to be working on the paperwork for a store in Beverly Hills right now. We would like you to run it." Apparently, she said she would absolutely love to take the opportunity. Now they haven't even secured the space yet, and they will need to build-out the store, and she said being that her company is italian, they tend to move at a very leisurely pace. So she's not sure when they'll even need her, but they are hoping to have it open "some time this year." She is from LA originally, her twin brother lives there, many of her friends live there, etc. If someone called me today and offered me a great position in Chicago, I honestly don't know how much my decision would depend on her. Certainly I would want her to come with me, but when you work and work and work to achieve something in your life, and then it falls into your lap, sometimes asking someone you didn't even know 4 or 5 months ago doesn't occur to you immediately. One thing she did say immediately, was "Start looking for a job in LA." So I guess the plan will be to move in with her in the next few months and just see where that takes us. Then, when they come calling for her to move to LA, I will be in a better position to know whether I am willing to follow her or not. And I certainly wouldn't be depending on her financially. It's just that the housing prices in LA are such that my standard of living in Vegas is MUCH higher on one income than it would be in LA. However, with two incomes, that would change things quite a bit, and perhaps increase the quality of life versus just how much disposable income I have every month.

QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 09:28 PM) Weren't you looking at a job in LA recently? Or am I thinking of someone else around here? Good memory. A guy from a utility in SoCal actually called me to recruit me...but the salary wasn't high enough for it to make sense with just me...but yeah, with two incomes, it could possibly work...especially since she makes more than me

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 10:05 PM) How long is "just"? I mean, did she accept it without even talking to you? Late this afternoon...and yes...she's from LA originally and all her friends are there...I knew this would probably be part of the deal. We've only been together for 3 months, so this doesn't mean much for me yet...but it does sort of put me to a decision of some sort.

The girlfriend just got advance notice of a promotion and relocation to LA at some point this year...she accepted. Oh brother.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 07:14 PM) So I've had this iPad for a few days now and I'm showing absolutely no signs of morphing into a pretentious douche. So it is possible after all. I'm insulted!!

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 04:30 PM) To be clear, I do think there should be winners and losers even at ages 6 and 7. Scores should be kept, albeit casually. I just don't think you start cutting players for a few years, and then only when necessary. As the kids eventually reach Jr High, where the teams play the best players to win, the rest tend to drop off on their own anyway. Seriously? You of all people telling others to get over something? I'd appreciate a PM with you elaborate on the meaning of this.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 31, 2012 -> 04:47 PM) Cool, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be getting over though? NSS brought it up and I agreed that, yes, it is sexist. Get over your need to endlessly correct or criticize people for whatever reason you do it (I could only guess, to be honest).