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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 03:25 PM) <!--quoteo(post=2891157:date=Nov 15, 2013 -> 03:24 PM:name=Jenksismyb****)-->QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 03:24 PM) <!--quotec-->Worst day in Illinois basketball history? Meh, I agree with Bruce on the BTN special that the loss probably helped relieved some pressure. Plus it didn't cost them anything. Who remembers they lost 2 games instead of one that year?

Worst day in Illinois basketball history?

f***ing Kansas.

ugh, my AT&T Uverse account doesn't seem to work so I can't stream it.

another rumor was that he was picking between illinois and depaul this morning

Dukie V chimes in that (of course) Duke will feel good today and Illinois will be left out.

"Our State. On everyone elses team." Ha, yep.

I wonder if Taylor Rooks knows. She's been pretty quiet on the Cliff front ever since that article with Illinois/DePaul being the only two still being considered.

More and more KU chatter for Cliff. Sigh, what a s***ty day.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 11:25 AM) Bolded the most important part of your post. Its not like that anymore. With nationally televised decisions and multiple recruit ranking websites the game has changed. Until someone signs their LOI its free game. And recruits particularly HATE when coaches completely back off once they've committed. "Now since I said I was coming there you dont care about me or come to any of my games? Coach X says I will always be important to him, now im thinking about flipping." If 90% of coaches/programs out there follow that rule, and a small minority don't, it's clear the small minority are being dirty/shady. They have no class anymore. I mean, it's Pitino, so that fits, but still.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 11:14 AM) So ILL was in contact with his coach? Where did he get the film? I understand the upset, but to think committed kids arent on team's radars is ridiculous. Recruiting is crazy and fluid, and coaches continue to text and speak with kids no matter when or where they've verballed. You never know when a teenage kid will change his mind, a coach will leave or anything of the sort. So you want to make sure you still have that connection. Clearly LOU kept in touch. It's been on record from Snider and his folks that Louisville completely ignored him at the time he decided to decommit and didn't try to stop him. Reports are basically that within the last week Louisville made contact again for the first time. This isn't the situation where the recruit is wavering and another program who has kept ties with him to stay on the radar eventually gets a second look.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 10:58 AM) Exactly. I changed my college choice about 3-4 times, and I doubt any engineering departments were holding their breath the way entire college fanbases are for these kids. Until he signs that letter, he isn't officially committed and might change his mind. It sucks for the school, but that's just how it is. We've heard enough b****ing from coaches about this over the years that it's clear there used to be an unwritten rule in basketball recruiting that once a kid gives a school a verbal commitment everyone else should lay off. And i'm sure the major reason for that is that you've "won" and you can then recruit in other areas without having to worry about a decommit. Your attention can be focused elsewhere. You don't have to travel to attend every home game of a committed recruit. If HE initiates more recruiting and if HE opens his recruitment back up, that's fine. But if he doesn't, it's bush league to keep recruiting a kid hard, especially the day or days before he's about to sign his LOI. Think about it in terms of dating. You're dating a girl and you know she's also dating around. At some point she tells you she wants to be exclusive. There's no ring on her finger. You aren't technically married. Yet you have this other guy that keeps texting her and trying to steal her away. There's no unwritten rule that that guy is being a dick and should lay off? You just accept that until she's signed the license she's available to anyone and you can't say anything about it? Come on.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 10:16 AM) So if a kid commits to SIU, blows up his senior year and ILL offers him its dirty? I understand it hurts to lose a good player but its clearly not dirty. The defending champs called, offered, and he accepted. A week before signing day? Yes. Absolutely. Especially if they had already gotten a commitment from the kid but forced him to decommit by signing other players at that position. Honestly i'm surprised Snider is ok going back to Louisville. The message was - hey we want you. Then, hey we have this better PG that committed but we still want you. Then he decommits and they don't call him or try to change his mind. Then when the higher ranked PG also decommits, at the last minute its hey we want you again. You're the plan B. You're the "oh s*** we gotta cover our ass here" recruit. If I had the choice between that or being THE guy and wanted all the way, i'm going with that option.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 10:03 AM) I just dont see how its dirty unless they paid the kid. He clearly wanted to go there, they offered him, he flipped. The kid didnt have to pick up the phone and he could have stayed with ILL. It's dirty IMO. The kids committed, you shift your focuses elsewhere and that should be understood. Wonder if Groce takes a gamble on Lyle or Brunson now. Kind of late in the game for both though. I guess they're ok at PG with Tate and Crosby, but Snider would have been nice for 2015 and 2016.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 09:14 AM) That isn't Kendrick Nunn. That is a 247 sports insider. He is very connected to Snider so I'm basically writing off Snider at this point but that guys info outside of the Indiana/Kentucky area is no where near as solid. I'm obviously not feeling great on Cliff at this point (and doubt anyone really is) but I highly doubt that guy has better info than anyone else on Cliff's commitment. Frankly it has felt like Cliff has purposefully put out wrong information all week so that no one would know where he is going hence the rumors that he is dropping KU, committing to KU, going to DePaul, going to Illinois, etc. Oops, yeah, I always think Nunn when I see his name. Well, to act like I did when the Gordon saga ensued and I kept holding onto hope, maybe worse case he just opens up his recruitment and doesn't sign with anyone until the spring and Illinois could still possibly land him.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 15, 2013 -> 09:15 AM) Also, because I'm not classy at all, I hope Snider is a massive failure if he goes to Louisville. Oh absolutely.

Nunn also thinks Illinois strikes out with both. That'd be awesome.

A kick in the balls, even if we do get Cliff.

Yeah, it's super shady. And sad. I hate sports.

He had a ceremony at school? Also contact with louisville has been confirmed.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 08:50 PM) Don't think there's anything to worry about regarding QS fwiw. The fact that so many in the know have been quiet concerns me. The coaches apprently think hes still good but admit someone is trying to steal him

Umm, snider better not decommit

I'm still upset about the lack up chromecast updates. Right now it's basically a google centered device with Netflix and Hulu. Where's my HBOGo? Where's my chrome browser casting ability for phones/tablets?

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 14, 2013 -> 04:10 PM) Illini fans I know will be mentally broken if Cliff shuns them, it seems. I gotta think with okafor and jones announcing at same time, they're going to Kansas together leaving cliff to Illinois. Just gut feeling. All three going to Kansas is my gut feeling.

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