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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 04:52 PM) Well, his record was 81-63, so he wasnt exactly average What's his record against the top 8-10 teams? Pretty awful. I can't even remember the last "big" game the Bears have won . Certainly not against GB, the Giants, the Pats, etc. He shouldn't be expected to go .800 against those teams, but i'm sure it's more like .300. And I still maintain he's the luckiest coach in the league. Having your defense score so many points is fluky, not matter how much emphasis he puts on turnovers.

And has for a number of seasons. I got a chance to listen to some sports talk today....my god there are people who were surprised/shocked Lovie got fired? Some even angry? WTF? Missing the playoffs 5 times in 6 years, 6 times in 9 years is f***ing pathetic. Lovie was incredibly average as a coach and his record supports that - beat the crap teams, lost to the good teams. Good f***ing riddance.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 03:20 PM) Or it could be as the Trayvon situation originally was going to be: absolutely no trial and minimal investigation, quickly ruled a "justified homicide." Could be, but justified homicide is by its nature going to be less likely given the pretty high burden you have to meet.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 03:18 PM) The simple fact is, your assessment of people's psychology simply doesn't agree with the data. The law creates a situation where people are more likely to consider pulling and using a weapon. It pours out every time anyone looks at this data. That's not what the study says. It says in those states with those laws there's an uptick in homicides. It doesn't conclude that SYG law is THE cause of that uptick.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) here is the actual study: http://econweb.tamu.edu/mhoekstra/castle_doctrine.pdf but you'd need for the police classifications to be systematically biased one way or the other for that to matter. If, on the whole, the number of murders falsely categorized as justified homicides is roughly equal to the number of justified homicides falsely categorized as murder, then there's no problem. Do we have a reason to believe that the police would, on the whole, bias their classifications one way or another? That bias need not be conscience, but I don't know of a good reason to presume it exists and is strong enough to influence the results. Well since SYG is a defense to homicide the assumption in the vast majority of cases is going to be homicide, with a jury deciding if it was justified or not later on. So yes, I could see those numbers being skewed that way.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) If the police lose such a case, then it would be listed as a justified homicide (that's why you don't use data for the current year). However, if the person settled in exchange for some jail time, it would not be listed as a justified homicide...because the person was convicted of a crime and went to jail. Did you look at the original study? What does he mean by "police statistics?" Just because the City of Chicago classifies a shooting as a homicide doesn't mean later on at trial that can't become a justifiable homicide. For all we know he's using what police initially think of a case, not the end result.

And really I don't see how that increase jives with concealed carry laws. Why wouldn't homicides in concealed carry states, versus Illinois for example, be higher? It's the availability of the gun in the vigilante scenario, not the availability of a defense. People don't sit there and ponder whether they can get away with shooting someone to death in the middle of an altercation. They don't think "hey, this is a close call, maybe I can get away with it!" They do the shooting and then try to use the SYG law as a defense, just like they would try to use any potentially available defense at their trial. I don't buy that having SYG on the books makes people more likely to shoot someone else. There's another explanation out there that just hasn't been found.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 03:07 PM) That one is actually going to be easy. If he wins his "Self-defense hearing", it will be classified under the federal statistics as a justifiable homicide which would have been counted as such. If he goes to jail, then it will not be. Which would be interesting, but it appears your study looked at how police classified the shootings, not the eventual trier of fact at a trial.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 02:58 PM) The problem is...there's no net increase in "justified homicides" in those same states. If it was just "Criminals" dying, then you'd see a dramatic surge in justifiable homicides; that death toll is more than the total number in the country. What you see instead is an increase in homicide with very little increase in justifiable ones. That means it's not just criminals dying. It means that 1 of 2 things is happening. Either you have the case where a crime is being committed and the law being passed makes the victim of that crime more likely to die, or you have the case where there is an altercation and the law being passed makes someone more likely to pull a gun and shoot the other, like the little Caesar's case where a fight over how slow the pizza was ended up with someone being shot. Those cases are the norm. The vigilante fantasy is the exception. It is staring you in the face in this data, and every way you look at it, you see the same result. That could be an explanation, and another is the way police officers classify the deaths. How you would classify the Martin situation would differ from me, for example. Either way, you can't make the conclusion that SYG laws = you're going to die if you get into an altercation.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 02:56 PM) criminals don't deserve extra-judicial deaths (death period imo but w/e), but the study looked at justifiable homicide rates as well to balance that out. further in the NPR story: We'll agree to disagree on the first part of that response, but with regards to the study that's basically a "we don't know" answer.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 02:06 PM) While I'm at it, slightly different topic, but still guns...the old SYG law. This of course just repeats a number of studies done on these laws previously which found the same result. When people are armed on the streets, there's no large increase in successful self-defenses, but there's a substantial body count from all the other situations the guns get pulled. If I remember right, I looked at those studies the first time you posted that and none of them stood for the fact that 7-9% more VICTIMS die, but rather deaths generally increased 7-9%. If that's the case and the majority of that increase is the criminals dying, who cares?

http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-rights/2013/...ach-year-rifles

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:35 PM) Couldnt you see this sort of backfiring too though? Say you dont pay your cable/bundle deal on time, does your downloaded content go away until you pay your bill? Also, you have to imagine if it Time Warner/Comcast, there will be a large contingent of people that wont buy it simply because they dont want to change their subscription from dish or just outright hate comcast(me) or time warner. Seems like a risky play to combine them. I'm sure it'll be optional. But if you're a Comcast subscriber and can get an HD DVR that also plays Xbox games wouldn't that tip the scale over getting a PS3? I'm sure they'll combine features too.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:21 PM) I would imagine that the number of people that just keep buying used games is far greater than the number that eventually buy new ones. Then again, I'm weird about that and never buy used games. The far easier answer to me is to increase digital distribution so gamestop can't sell the same used game 4 times at $50 a pop. Yeah, digital distribution is the next thing for consoles. I heard the new Xbox is trying to land a deal with a big cable company, basically to combine the two to make one set top box for gaming, tv and movies.

NRA wins again! Wild west here we come! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/02...group-warns-no/

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 01:07 PM) So lets kick this thing off with a little rumor nugget about the upcoming Playstation console: http://kotaku.com/5972787/sony-patent-coul...ext-playstation So, two things I have read rumor wise about this console is 1: it will not be backwards compatible with PS3(and will force you to get those games on the PS Network) and 2: it will destroy the used game market with playstation. If this above patent comes to fruition, your game will only work with your console. No going to friends houses with your games, no renting. Your console, thats it. I don't understand why they would do this. I would guess - and perhaps my assumption is wrong - that Gamestop and similar companies actually make more money for developers, especially the big developers with titles that have sequels. There have been several games that I started with a used copy and then later bought the new copy because I liked the franchise so much.

ah, i see.

what was it?

Well it was fun being ranked

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 08:25 PM) and who is going to fight in this? you? hahahaha Should be easy without guns

Illinois just doesn't look sharp. Has nothing to do with shooting the ball either.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 08:01 PM) I still think Nunn and Tate were recruited based on playing together rather then their individual games. Neither has been very impressive this season. Especially when Jabari was out, neither stepped up like the should have. Two words: Malcolm Hill. He's gonna be a stud in college IMO.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 03:46 PM) Who cares, you made an polar-opposite prediction from what Balta said and indicated that we're going to be getting strong gun controls and that talking about arming teachers is just silly because it's not going to happen. Because 600 people voluntarily signing up for free firearms training = arming all teachers with guns.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 2, 2013 -> 03:44 PM) in what world did the tea party control all of congress? the tea party is just loud, they still weren't the majority In what world do the Dems control Congress today? Why should Republicans lie down when they control the House?

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 27, 2012 -> 06:48 PM) Not sure if he'll end up at Michigan State, but Cliff Alexander is a hoss. Illinois baby! (wishful thinking)