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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:50 PM) What do you think the chances of an openly non-christian president being elected are? Yeah, because he flaunts that s*** daily. There's never a fight over anything religious when it comes to the public - be it currency, statues, whatever. You're right man, religious people totally rule the world based solely on their beliefs. When a guy like Rick Perry talks about praying for God's intervention the country totally accepted that. The media didn't attack him for saying something so stupid. GMAFB.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) Would you agree that those are pretty silly things to believe in? I think it's pretty silly that you believe various elements just existed in space prior to the Big Bang. I'll just start calling you a dummy from now on if that's the acceptable way to behave when talking about these issues.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) This simply isn't true. Oh really? When's the last time you heard a postive story about what a religious organization is doing? You don't. You hear nothing but negative. When's the last time religious was even a minor part of a TV or movie? Decades. Religion/religious people are made fun of constantly.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) Religion and science do not operate in the same way. Not saying they are. But when people talk about "my hypothesis is X and here's why" there's an understanding that others might have differing theories and that yours might not be correct.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) There are a hell of a lot more religious people in this country than atheists. Atheists are still widely distrusted. Being religious in mass media is nearly unheard of these days. Yeah, most Americans might identify themselves as being religious or believers, but the portrayal of our society, and the acceptance of that in our society, is not comparable to those numbers.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:40 PM) Of what? People being vehement (or straight up angry) about someone believing in something they don't believe.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:24 PM) Jenks, Exactly, if it cant be proven, dont use it as a fact. That is the exact problem I have. If people want to believe in some non-provable thing, go for it, just let me live my life in peace with things that can be proven. I fully understand that one day I may have to answer to St. Peter for my beliefs, but that is after Im dead. I've never met a sane/rational person that believes strongly in their beliefs that doesn't recognize that it is their belief, that spirituality at the end of the day is an individual thing, and that it is simply that - a belief that cannot be proven like a scientific problem. I get on the science community for stating theories of how something happened as concrete fact. SS likes to remind me that it's understood, if not clearly stated, that it's still a theory. I think religion operates the same way.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:33 PM) Why is this a surprise given that religion teaches absurdities like a 6,000 year old Earth or man living amongst dinosaurs? A significant portion of people in America believe things like this, and worse still, want this nonsense taught in public schools. Exhibit A.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) Historically speaking, religion has accounted for millions of innocent deaths. The problem (imo) in dealing with religious people is that they tend to rely on "faith" as opposed to "facts", so when trying to discuss a solution and their response is "faith" based, there is just no way to rationally go about it besides for attacking the foundation, which is the religion. For example, Many people believe that women are subservient to men due to religion. If you are going to try and argue for a woman's equality, you cant just pull out a chapter from the New Testament to support you. Thus if they keep relying on it, you just have to attack the New Testament. I dont care one way or another, people can believe whatever they want, just dont use "beliefs" as any sort of rational for why a law should be something or why a certain group should be denied benefits etc. If you think people are going to heaven and hell, whatever, great, well see what happens after we die. But until that day, Id prefer we run our lives based on facts, not on faith. Well, by definition a belief in faith cannot be proven so....pretty tough hurdle you're requesting there.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 9, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) Wow, I think it is the complete opposite. Perhaps it's both extremes, but I tend to feel that religious people get attacked much more as being morons that haven't accepted we live in a modern world full of the almighty science.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 9, 2012 -> 01:08 PM) My English teacher wrote this on the board one day and told somebody to try and read it. I have no idea what the actual lesson we were supposed learn was but I've always remembered it for some reason. mr ducks mr not ducks osmr cdedbd wings? lib mr ducks Translation: das rayces!

Preface - i'm not all that religious myself, though I do believe in the Christian God and, generally, the teachings of the Christian faith. I just don't get why people who are not religious have to be so vehement about it, to the point of almost being angry. If someone wants to believe, let them believe. It's like you think that if anyone is talking to you about their beliefs they're preaching to you and you have to be all strong and defiant about not believing it, otherwise you'll be viewed as weak-minded.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 9, 2012 -> 11:29 AM) double yuck Why is that yuck? Good luck finding a guy that wants to play a half or 3/4 of a season and then be stuck on the bench 40-42 minutes a game. Kirk would probably welcome the move back for the mid level exception. And he's not terrible, he can run the offense and play some defense. He's certainly no worse than Watson and probably better since Watson can't shoot or keep the ball in bounds these days.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) They could be wearing hooded sweatshirts. lol, nice.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 9, 2012 -> 10:09 AM) Jenks, Come on now, you know the White House cant let anyone in without being cleared, even if they are a baby. What would stop a terrorist from inserting a bomb into a kid and using it as a weapon. Terrorists are willing to do anything, so I would think most people would want all safety measures taken when it comes to letting people into the White House, whether they are 1 minute old or 100 years old. They run quick background checks on you. That's why they need that info. A baby has no background to check. This is one of those things where someone along the lined stopped using common sense.

Keep Lucas and bring Kirk back next year.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 8, 2012 -> 09:10 PM) Jenks, http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/pro-lif...-232932573.html They explained the policy. Its in case the baby is born before the visit and they still want to go, otherwise theyd have to refuse access. The more hypocritical position is that if you kill an unborn fetus you can be charged with murder. Because 3 month old babies are huge security threats. I mean, they can drop bombs, but not THOSE kind of bombs.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2012 -> 05:54 PM) There are huge differences in the evidence standards, at the very least, since Hearsay is allowable as evidence. And if these were any other court working on the current globally accepted standards, the people would be released summarily after having been repeatedly tortured. Hearsay evidence is allowed in civil/criminal trials too. Just depends on the situation. Go read up on the Nuremberg stuff. Lots and lots of normal, routine judicial procedures were ignored/changed to fit the type of trial they were putting on.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2012 -> 02:46 PM) They're being extremely patient with them to the point that it allows them to create a show (with requests like the one noted there)...but they have no choice but to do that since the court itself has so little credibility. In a normal court, they'd have been in, arraigned, and out, and if someone tried to make a scene, the judge would have simply dealt with it and moved on with the proceedings, and that wouldn't have cost the court any Credibility, whereas a kangaroo court denying the people the right to speak every day costs the kangaroo court whatever little credibility it has. I find these sort of assertions (about the lack of credibility) somewhat laughable. There's zero difference between this tribunal and your every day county court except the amount of time they've existed. A small group of people created them and created the rules that are followed. This system is no different than the Nuremburg trials. There's no precedent really, so they're doing the best with what they have. Edit: Gotta love wikipedia: the prosecutor for the main war crimes trial said it pretty good here:

QUOTE (farmteam @ May 8, 2012 -> 02:53 PM) I can't even fathom eating a placenta. Does not compute. I will say this though - after watching about a million A Baby Story and Baby's First Day shows (think House Hunters for soon-to-be-parents), there is something very strange that comes out of women immediately before and after birth. Like natural urges start to take over and women stop being normal humans for a while. It's pretty fascinating.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2012 -> 02:42 PM) So far I've gotten the impression that these hearings are a trainwreck. I haven't gotten that feel at all. They spent an entire day on arraigning these guys, something that normally takes 10 minutes. They're being extremely patient with these guys.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 8, 2012 -> 01:55 PM) 9/11 defense attorney wears hijab at hearing, wants others in court to dress more modestly Intentionally trying to throw the case? That is a strange request.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 8, 2012 -> 02:17 PM) I find it decidedly weird. Agreed.

This is sorta ironic: http://freebeacon.com/no-birth-certificate-required/

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 8, 2012 -> 10:15 AM) You should double that amount of ram...it'll only cost about ~50$. also, make sure you get a 64 bit version of Windows...I assume you will be running Windows, as you don't appear to be much of a Linux type. I've got some from my old computer i'm going to put in this, so i'll have 12gb total. And I got a sweet deal on my Windows. $40 bucks. A buddy of mine works with Microsoft and can buy a copy from them directly. Saved me $60 bucks from buying a new copy on newegg.com