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    Tonight was a good thing............

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by SpringfieldFan

    QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 09:41 AM)
    You guys seriously don't get it.  This is for if we make it to the playoffs, Ozzie will have the flexibility/confidence to go to any one of his guys to get whatever job done.  If you guys seriously think Ozzie would plug all these guys in at once in a playoff game, you're simply f***tarded.  Ozzie's just trying to keep his guys fresh, if they're going to be on this roster.

     

    Hang cool. man. I just don't want the regulars getting rusty by not all playing together for a substantial part of the time. Maybe I am paranoid and the Oz way will prove right. I hope that is that case. It just doesn't seem like I remember Lopes, Cey & Garvey, or Conception, Rose & Morgan, or Ripken & Murray being plugged in and out of the lineup weekly.

     

    SFF

     

    Oh and I apologize for the smart-assness of my prior remark. It was uncalled for.

    Jayson Stark

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 07:47 AM)
    i agree. in my opinion the only prospects who are ever untouchable are sure fire guys. the guys like delmon young, and felix hernandez. i mean i remember when people threw a fit that we traded anthony webster to texas. tell me what these guys have amounted to? the only ones who have contributed are gary majewski, kip wells and josh fogg. fogg has been just plain bad, wells has been ok. but even i will say that the ritchie deal was abysmal. but what about webster? rupe? frankie francisco had 1 good year then went nuts and hurt himself. olivo is a huge bust. reed will be a decent OFer, but in our system would still be  ranked behind anderson and young IMO. rauch hasnt amounted to anything. reed, majewski and morse are the only ones who look like htey might be solid major leaguers, and lets face it majewski 1.) isnt as good as his numbers this year, and 2.) nobody shed a tear when he left. morse.....1.) the sox wanted to get rid because of personal issues, and 2.) also isnt really as good as he has done this year. if he was the mariners wouldnt have started wilson valdez at the beginning of the year

     

    now look at who we got in trades like those.....garcia, everett (2nd in RBIs on this team playin in fewer games than most). those two alone are a huge reason why we are in 1st. yes alomar and ritchie sucked, but the guys we have gotten have had a bigger impact than the guys we gave up. so if KW wants to deal bmac, young, anderson etc......go for it. i want to see our guys with a ring

     

    Webster, lol! I had forgotten about him!

    Sox @ Royals 7/25/05 Game Thread

    in 2005 Season in Review

    Posted

    QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:33 PM)
    I said it before the game.  If we dont see Marte in the later innings, even warming up, the deal is going through.

     

     

    That reminds me, what was Frank Thomas thinking by admitting to the world he is hurt again? Couldn't he and the Sox have waited until after the trade deadline to make such a big deal about it? That cost them some trade leverage IMO.

    Sox @ Royals 7/25/05 Game Thread

    in 2005 Season in Review

    Posted

    QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:29 PM)
    Yes, but I'd much rather try to beat Boston or NY and not deserve than try to go up against Oakland and get crushed.

     

    In any case the whole curse thing is a moot point now. If the Sox are cursed with Oakland, so is the rest of the American league. Zito has a two hitter going tonight...again.

     

    It would be a great matchup methinks

    Sox @ Royals 7/25/05 Game Thread

    in 2005 Season in Review

    Posted

    QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:25 PM)
    I completely agree with you.  Some people think that he's the best pitcher ever.  It's not like he had a 0.00 ERA in the minors.  He'll have games where he looks amazing....and games where he struggles.  And like you said, it's 100 times better to see him pitch than Shingo from a flat-out fun aspect.

     

    For fun, I tell you you couldn't beat Jenks' first appearance. Didn't he come in right after Shingo with that 65mph "junk"?

    Sox @ Royals 7/25/05 Game Thread

    in 2005 Season in Review

    Posted

    QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 10:09 PM)
    don't you think Oakland has to cool off eventually? Maybe after they stomp the Twins? Man, am I glad the Sox don't face them again.

     

    I don't know, they are 26 of their last 32 and have had a couple years recently where they were just unconcious in the second half. If we play them we might catch them overconfident :pray

     

    but the hell with all that...

    Who are you "rooting" for?

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by SpringfieldFan

    QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 02:34 PM)
    Yep. There are 2 teams I fear in the AL. #1 is the A's by far. #2 the Angels kinda have that west coast thing to. I have no fear for the Yanks or Sawx or anyone else that division can throw at us.

     

     

    I believe we won 2 out of 4 in Anaheim this year, so I am not so much concerned about them. I would most prefer it not be Oakland because they match up best against our pitching. If we change our pitching equation a bit by adding someone like Burnett, Schmidt, Wagner, etc. (i.e. power), I would be more comfortable matching up with them.

     

    SFF

    Cotts now a bullpen key

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 04:15 PM)
    I think that in a few years  you'll really be surprised how much people will be giving up for a quality relief pitcher, especially a left handed one...both in terms of players and cash.

     

    Think about this...let's say Cotts was still a starter and was putting up average numbers.  If you were Boston, would you prefer to pick him up as a starter or as a reliever?  A dominant relief pitcher is starting to turn into a more valuable commodity than a .500 W/L starter, and probably deservedly so.

     

     

    Yes, I agree those are good points, and reassuring too. Like I said, I am just happy Neal relishes his bullpen role. It does seem like a catch-22 though. If Neal really had dreams of being a starter, then what could he have done to earn it back once he was put in the pen. Would he have had to have been less effective in the pen? Something tells me that if he had any problems whatsoever relieving, the Sox would have been even less likely to let him start again then they are now. So, just out of curiosity, what would he have had to do be be a starter again? :huh

     

    SFF

    Cotts now a bullpen key

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    I guess that closes the book on him ever being a starter again *sigh*. The day he "temporarily" got converted to middle relief was the day I thought "uh-oh, he will never start again", despite assurances from others to the contrary. At least I am pleased with the value he now adds to the team and that he likes the role of reliever. Otherwise it would seem a cruel irony for him to earn a "demotion" by excelling in a role he may not have wanted.

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