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Well, I guess for what its worth, every time Boston beats us in this series, the Athletics and their fans are saying "s***!". If they wind up 1 game out of the wildcard, I bet we are all happy the Red Sox took at least 2 here this week.
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Think of it this way. A couple of weeks ago, when KW looked at possible trades, he had to anticipate where the problems might be and hope he guessed right. He ain't gotta guess now.
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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 02:28 PM)Im too supersticious for that s***. I would beat the hell outta myself if that happened. Pics included.
When compared to the Cubs, didn't Ozzie say something to the effect that the Sox don't need superstitions to explain their fate because the explanation was simply that they had some horses*** teams in the past. Haha, I love it. I do understand your feelings though!
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QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 02:16 PM)How many games up are we? How many more games do we have with the Twins? What is the magic number?
Take these 3 qustions into consideration....it aint over till its OVER.
This is true. However, I don't see any harm in some of us assuming its over and looking beyond. If the unforseen happens and the Sox lose it, its those fan's problem.
I say that as long as the team doesn't assume its over, the fans can think as they wish.
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QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 11:41 AM)People get confused about Aug 1st & what it means by a player must clear waivers. So let's set the record straight:
What is a MLB waiver?
A permission granted for certain assignments of player contracts or for the unconditional release of a Major League player.
What does it mean to clear waivers?
The player has not been claimed by another team after 3 business days."
What can a team do once a player clears waivers?
Send him to the minors, release him (consent req'd for vets), or trade him.
How do teams trade past the Jul 31st deadline?
Though all players must clear waivers the team seeking to trade a player has the right to withdraw the player from waivers. It's that right of refusal that still allows trades to happen past the deadline.
The GM network in MLB rarely thwarts a trade after Jul 31st. Most GM's know what's going down between teams & you can get a bad rep real quick if you gummy up the works. Likewise GM's know which teams are essentially dumping contracts. These are the teams least likely to challenge a waiver claim from an outsider (a team they did not intend to trade with) because they are more interested in dumping the contract then
gettng talent value back. In these cases the seller usually works out a trade with the buyer.
When it comes to trades after the Jul 31st deadline having the best record in MLB is a curse. It hurst far more than it helps. Teams rarely put a guy on waivers & they withdraw him to avoid another team. What happens instead is that the selling team negotiates before that time with the teams interested in their player. The weaker team (record-wise) gets the nod over the stronger team.
Ex. Let's say Philly finally throws in the towel 2nd week of Aug & decides it wants to sell Wagner. The for sale sign will go out to the other GM's & they will contact Philly to buy Wagner. Philly is under no obligation to sell to a team with a weaker record than the White Sox. But they are more likely to listen to those teams before the White Sox. If they can't come to terms with those other teams they will essentially seek an ok from the other GM's to go ahead & allow the trade between Philly & the White Sox.
One way of looking at the trade deadline when your team does have the best record in possible is that after July 31st, the seller has to seek permission from all other GM's to sell to you. Philly's 5GB of the NLE & NLWC. They've won 6/10. The deadline is 9 days away.
Atl 5/5 riding a 1W streak. Next 9 (ARI, WAS, PIT)
Was 2/10 riding a 2L streak. Next 9 ( HOU, ATL, FLM)
Mets 6/10 riding a 4W streak. Next 10 (LAD, COL, HOU)
Hou 7/10 riding a 5W streak. Next 10 (WAS, PHI, NYM)
Phil 6/10 riding a 2L streak. Next 10 (SDP, HOU, COL)
If Philly loses the next 3 series that will probably make them sellers & give KW a chance to get Wagner before the deadline.
Go Pads, Stros, & Rocks!
Thus concludes this week's lesson. Next week we will ease it up a bit with organic chemsitry, nuclear physics, and differential equations.
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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 01:36 PM)Hopefully the Twins. For the love of God, it better be the Twins.
I nominate this post as the most unlikely quote ever seen on Soxtalk.
I also happen to agree with it.
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QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 09:51 PM)high socks + anything = awesome
Now the million dollar question. Are the high black socks just sanitaries or are they stirrups with a very small cut-out? My preference would be high black stirrups with a bit of a white sanitary visible too.
I am bowing out of this thread now. This is about as specific as I am willing to get in talking about fashion.
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I kinda liked the one that simply said "It's OK, Joe"
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QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 02:43 PM)Garland also was somewhat raw at the time of the Karchner trade, I believe (traded for in '98, didn't make his debut till 2000, right?). Jon Rauch won MLPOY...I don't care about that award.
I believe that if you look at Garland's history before the major leagues, you will find he eventally was close to, if not the highest, rated pitcher at each level he went through. I remeber readin his bio shortly after he was acquired from the Cubs and it was impressive.
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QUOTE(knightni @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 05:16 PM)QUOTE
The Brown Recluse
The brown recluse is a drab little bug, much less well known than its distant cousin the black widow. The Laxoceles clan, including the North American representatives, L. reclusa and L. rufescens, are ordinary looking, medium-sized brown spiders less than an inch long. They like living in human structures, and often set their webs in corners or in heating ducts. They also enjoy bunking with humans, and have a nasty habit of crawling into clothing as well. Most victims are bitten while dressing or sleeping.
In its own way, the brown recluse’s venom is much nastier than that of the Lacrodectus. Recluse venom is a necrotic toxin: that is, instead of affecting a victim’s nervous system, it acts directly on the skin and musculature to kill the tissues immediately surrounding the bite. The dead tissues heal very slowly, if at all. The effects include a stinging sensation in the vicinity of the bite, coupled with vomiting, restlessness, and malaise. If the venom fails to penetrate the skin, the bite is not life-threatening; however, if it does, the victim may suffer more severe symptoms, including kidney failure (which may turn the urine black) and toxic shock reactions. However, death in unlikely; since 1896, fewer than ten of 130+ brown recluse cases recorded in the United States have resulted in death. In severe cases, necrosis may lead to gangrene, which can require amputation.
I haven't had this hard a time pronouncing the words in a thread post since some of the Twins game threads a few years back...
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QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 22, 2005 -> 10:26 AM)Thank you, next question
It's a big part of why he's even here. I'd be shocked if we traded Duque or moved him to the pen.
Thanks for the stats and insights, everyone. Like I said, I didn't know his postseason history (I don't follow the Yankees) other then coffeepot talk. Therefore, I didn't know if his playoff numbers were just from a "small sample size" and he just happened to be hot at the right time. However, he has logged 100+ postseason innings so his numbers are worthwhile. Now, his age and health might be other issues, but the history sure paints a promising picture.
Now this begs another question: What is it about the postseason that makes him improve? Is there a magic button that he only pushes when October approaches? Why can't he push it from April through August?
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The prevailing wisdom I hear all the time is that we need El Duke in the playoffs, because that is when he will be dominant. To hear folks, once the playoffs start, you can practically chalk up a "W" when he pitches.
My question: is this really true? I didn't follow him much before he came to the sox, but just what did he do in past postseasons to warrant such a reputation? Did he have just a dominant start or two a few years back or has he had a long undisputable history of strong playoff efforts? What exactly are his playoff numbers? I look at him now and I see a guy who lets a lot of runners on and has an ERA of around 5. What about his past playoff history should make me comfortable casting his regular season numbers aside and assume he will be lights out once October rolls around?
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Yeah, I heard most of the commentary too. I tuned in at the point he was apparently trying to refute a Sox fan's charge he has an east coast bias. To paraphrase him, he said The Angels have had lots of coverage too, so he said perhaps it could be called "both coasts" bias but that was reasonable since the "group" from the midwest (i.e. the central) hasn't really done anything in recent times.
Then he threw out a stat that really is worth looking at. He said that against .500-plus teams, the sox were only something like 29-28, which is reason to be skeptical of their playoff chances. This point is worth discussion for various reasons: (1) is it even true, (2) are some of the losing teams under .500 because the Sox beat them (3) are the Yanks & Angels records against winning teams any better. Discuss...
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NOAA says it is leftovers from Dennis. We had them here in Spfld this last week. Thundershowers and bright sun on and off all day long, every day...
AWUS81 KCLE 171501RWSCLE
LATE MORNING OHIO WEATHER STORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH
11 AM EDT SUN JUL 17 2005
DENNIS CONTINUES TO AFFECT THE WEATHER ACROSS OHIO.
HUMID WEATHER CONDITIONS CONTINUE ACROSS OHIO THIS MORNING.
TEMPERATURES WERE MAINLY IN THE 70S...BUT SO WERE THE DEW
POINTS. MUCH NEEDED RAIN ALSO FELL THIS MORNING...24 HOUR
RAINFALL AMOUNTS RANGED FROM 1.97 IN ELMORE TO A TRACE IN
YOUNGSTOWN.
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE THIS
AFTERNOON. SOME OF THE STORMS MAY PRODUCE HEAVY RAINFALL
AND SOME LOCAL FLOODING IN LOW LYING AREAS AND UNDERPASSES.
TEMPERATURES WILL REACH INTO THE MID AND UPPER 80S WITH DEW
POINTS IN THE UPPER 60S AND LOWER 70S. OVERNIGHT TEMPERATURES
WILL FALL INTO THE LOWER AND MID 70S WITH DEW POINTS IN THE 70S.
THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR SLEEPING.
MORE OF THE SAME CAN BE EXPECTED FOR MONDAY...WITH SLIGHTLY LESS
HUMID CONDITIONS ON TUESDAY.
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First time I have seen pics of Young. So the Sox organization has their own "sideways hat" type of player?
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If they plan to have kids, they better not let Kenny Williams into the ceremony. He might end up selling them off for three months of A.J Burnett...
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I swear Aaron could fell a tree in one swing if that bat was an axe.
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...meanwhile, in the latest epic chapter in the legendary gladiator battles in holy coliseums out east, Boston has now grabbed a 17-1 lead on the Yankees after 6. Be ESPN decree, let the rest of major league baseball pause in a moment of awe and wonder...
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People are still upset over giving up those two? Good grief, if some of us had our way, it would be easier to touch a preacher's daughter then any of our prospects, 90% of which will never yield anything in return anyway.
Baseball is notorious for running in cycles. If we have to pay for talent with prospects now we can always sell said talent to acquire other prospects when this team's success has run its course....
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Very cool - here comes the exposure. Not that we need it, but once the Yankees and Boston also pay a visit, our Sox are gonna have more attention than a hooker on parole day :rolly
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I think Francona did a perfect job managing the game. He, as a WS champion, knew the value of the home field in the WS, and did what he could to best enable the American League to win. He saved three closers until the last inning in case the game went long, and saved the best closer of them all (and a Yankee at that) for the very end. Likewise, he saved Pods for the entire game for the possiblity he might need him in a critical pinch running situation. Francona knew what he was doing - and I applaud him for it.
Now, assuming Pods is on the main ballot next year... you know what to do, folks!
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The bad thing about this situation is that we are no longer invincible. We were faced with a challege we couldn't stand up to, and we will not get another chance to prove that fear wrong. There is a team out there who, as far as we can tell, would "send us home" if we had to play them. That's a sick feeling
The good thing is that no team is invincible. The Sox won't play .700 ball all year; no team can. We all got comfortable thinking that, and perhaps the Sox did too. The truth is that they are human and can and will slump like all teams. It is better to learn that now then learn it in october. Even if the Sox return from the break to lose 8 of 10, they will rebound, as all slumping teams do. Unfortunately, there will just be that spector of Oakland haunting us the rest of the way.
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What's this "5 games under" really have to do with this argument anyway? You can't separate the individual player's performance from the team record. PK, JG, and Pods wouldn't be in the all star game in the Sox were under .500 - but they wouldn't have the same numbers in that event anyway! Their accomplishments are what have the Sox at 31 over in the first place.
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Burnett now not likely going to Orioles
in Pale Hose Talk
Posted · Edited by SpringfieldFan
I do think he is as good as gone, even before tonight. Ozzie pulled a quick hook on him after one walk last night and was perfectly willing to replace him with Jenks, who is probably the wildest arm on the team. Methinks Marte is on the "showroom floor" whenever he is out there and they don't want to risk him laying an egg.