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7 minutes ago, T R U said:
I can recall one flyball going out to left field so far this season through 10 games. There have been about 5-6 out to right. Even the ground balls either go up the middle or to 2nd base. Everyone at this age is swinging late on 45-55 MPH pitches from 45 feet away.
I wasn't in right until traveling ball. I was a bit miffed at being in right until the coach explained it to me and we looked through the score cards. I was involved in more outs than the left fielder.
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11 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
I agree with the replacement, that's why I think it has to happen ASAP. Get someone who can make mistakes and it won't cost you the playoffs now, and when the team is ready, they will be ready as well.
This year's replacement won't be around in two or three years when they are competitive and won't be of a caliber to manage a playoff team.
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10 minutes ago, T R U said:
As someone who has been coaching 11-13 year olds for about 2 years now, this is a misconception. The majority of the balls I see get hit to RF because the majority of these kids all swing late. I use to think with the same mindset of stick the worst kid in RF but that was quickly proving to be costly. At least for the 11 year olds and up range.
True. I played mostly catcher and right field. We hid the weak armed guy in left. He wasn't making throws to first but I was making throws to third.
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16 minutes ago, nrockway said:
The entire team still makes very dumb defensive lapses (how about that Harper run down) which can only reflect on the coaching staff
These guys were studs on defense until they got here. The coaches must be teaching then a new way to handle run downs.
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JR and Getz needs him in the dugout distracting everyone from how shitty the collection of slackers, hackers, has beens and never weres, actually is. Be the lightning rod for fan criticism.
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4 minutes ago, MEANS said:
Serious question, what made you think he would be great?
I know this wasn't directed at me, but a number of reasonably solid baseball insiders believed he was ready and would be great. I thought we found a diamond in the rough.
I knew we weren't going to get a "name". His replacement will be off similar caliber.
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4 hours ago, Dick Allen said:
If the players aren't listening to this guy, it's time for a new guy. They are major leaguers, they are capable of throwing to the right base, holding runners on, doing rundowns correctly. 64-120 is all you need to know. i though 61-101 was the bottom, but 3-19 is an all time franchise worst start.
You're not wrong. It's part of what needs to be done. Whomever they would hire tomorrow won't be a WS level manager.
Who are you listening to to know where to throw, how to hold runners on, or do a rundown? Let's hire your guy. He can't be any worse.
Again, I'm fine with firing him. Just like I was fine with firing Tony, Rick, Robin, Ozzie, Jerry, Terry, Gene, Jeff, and Jim and I'm probably forgetting one or two.
Fire Gets, Hahn, and Williams.
It sells tickets, makes it look like the team is trying.
But until they actually can draft and develop or attract free agents without a train load of problems it's all window dressing. I'm just too fed up with seeing bad players and being told it's the coaching. No, they are cheap, they have injuries, past their prime, not enough dependent, they basically suck.
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8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
If the players aren't listening to this guy, it's time for a new guy. They are major leaguers, they are capable of throwing to the right base, holding runners on, doing rundowns correctly. 64-120 is all you need to know. i though 61-101 was the bottom, but 3-19 is an all time franchise worst start.
Sure. If a new manager will make you happy, maybe you'll buy a ticket or two. Make you believe real change is happening, fire the guy. I won't care either way.
The only thing that will make me happy are MLB capable players in the field. Until that gets addressed we're just wasting time thinking this will be anything but a fifth place franchise.
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22 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
They can make them throw to the correct base, or do a run down correctly, and if they can't do that, not play them. "When they hired him, I was excited. His introductory press conference was music to my ears. He has failed in every aspect. I understand a new manager isn't going to make this a playoff team, but it's pretty clear if this was a playoff caliber team, Pedro would mess it up. Get him out of here.
Ok. Don't play them. Rush some guys up to replace them. Hire a new manager. It's exactly what the Sox do to hide they have crappy players over and over again. I guess it will keep working.
Change the uniforms, build a new stadium, bring in a new announcer, retire a number, hire a domestic abuser, fire a bigamist, switch TV networks, do whatever they want. But it is just a cover for not being able to draft, attract, or develop MLB level talent.
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4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
True, but I think Dick is referring to all the big talk by Grifol about how he would coach these guys up. He hasn’t accomplished anything he said he would do when he talked a big game after his hiring.
I believe it's a reasonable expectation for players at this level to arrive knowing the fundamentals that they learned in little league. Basically he's working with guys that need to go back to their tee ball days. I put that 99% on the GM and players.
Pedro is being asked to take the worse lineup in baseball and win games. The greatest manager in baseball history isn't going to win 60 games with these guys. Obviously we could use upgrades everywhere, including the manager. I'm going to beat the drum that these guys are not MLB talent and that has to be addressed first before looking at the manager. Firing Pedro would just be another cover up for the fact this organization can't field a MLB lineup. JR has lived by smoke and misdirection. We need MLB level talent.
Is Pedro a WS manager? Not now, and he won't be with the Sox. Eventually he has to go.
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9 hours ago, Dick Allen said:
Yes I do, but if they do it multiple times, why isn’t a message getting across? Accountability.
Because they are bad baseball players for MLB players. No manager is going to make them much better.
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Oh well. Good night y'all.
I'm going to focus on my team. I have two players in the state finals and all this losing is bad karma.
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Just now, Dick Allen said:
What has Pedro done that makes you think he’s a goo MLB manager?
I don't think he's a good AAA manager. I believe that anyone on a MLB roster should know what base to throw to without daily prep. Don't you?
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1 minute ago, fathom said:
Nah, this is below even the lowest expectations.
I was one of the most pessimistic, so not for me.
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1 minute ago, tjp1684 said:
Can it be “all of the above?” A manager who shouldn’t be leading this team. A front office that put together a poor, cheap, underperforming roster. Players who realize this is a bad team with some just cashing paychecks. An ultimately an owner who needs to sell the team.
Yes.
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Just now, fathom said:
They all suck….outside of Wilson and Sheets, is there a single player on this roster who isn’t massively underachieving?
Splitting hairs here but I think many of that guys are achieving exactly what should have been expected. They weren't going to achieve much more. Just look behind the plate. He sucks while achieving what most of us expected.
But underachieving to MLB standards.
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Just now, fathom said:
Sit their ass
That's a plan. We have plenty of AA guys to run out there.
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4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
If you haven’t been throwing to the correct bases, yes. They have been throwing to the wrong bases, not holding on runners, missing cutoff men, bad baserunning, bad rundowns, bat at bats, his entire tenor.
All s%*# they should have learned in little league. If we know the difference, does it really take a daily meeting to tell MLB players? How fucking stupid are these guys if they can't remember fundamentals from their T Ball days?
I'm blaming shitty players. Most of these guys were all tossed aside by better teams. Was it everyone's poor managing or they just have little talent or over the hill?
Or maybe you're right, Getz put together a major league competitive roster and it's the manager's fault.
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1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:
What exactly is Pedro responsible for?
Do you need Pedro to tell you which base to throw to?
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2 minutes ago, fathom said:
Gotta love how much Pedro sticks up for the team
It's the only thing he can do.
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2 minutes ago, JoshPR said:
Still preparation is bad. People throwing to the wrong bases. Not focused this is a s%*# show
Or just inability? How much prep at this point to throw to the right base? What prep did you do to know it was wrong?
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We're only one touchdown down going into the fourth quarter.
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How about just using an iPad and a stats package?
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53 minutes ago, JoeC said:
Isn't that what Ricky Renteria was?
Yep. But then they made a colossal blunder.
4/22: Sox @ Twins - 640CT - Cannon v. Paddack
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I'm wondering if they have tried and been turned down?! If you were an agent would you advise a coach or manager client to sign here?
We get desperation and former players who can be coerced.