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QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:59 PM) The Royals starters are garbage. Guthrie has pitched exceptionally well against the Sox until his last outing....but he had a run going against ALL teams he was facing there for a long stretch, not just the Sox.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 04:01 PM) Chen is disgracefully bad. He has the white Sox number, nobody else's. Probably why he's 1-2 with a 3.93 against DET this season. Greg, sometimes you really are overdoing it with this Royals thing, in the face of any and all evidence to the contrary at times.

It is a BIT strange, in that Viciedo had a very solid game offensively and was PH for...and he pinch hit for Beckham as well yesterday, both times with Johnson, and both times it worked. Oh well, hunch didn't work today, and you can't expect to touch up Pestano two days in a row, especially with the shadows. Nothing out of YOUK on a day designed/planned for him. Wasted a huge opportunity to put the pressure back on the Tiggers and Sanchez, who's been pitching extremely well of late.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:47 PM) As much as I want the Sox to win...I have the exact same amount of confidence that they are actually going to pull it out. Cy Chen really needs to come through for us, but knowing him and the Royals they will totally f*** us over once again this season Like when they swept the Tigers in KC and also put up an 8 spot on Verlander, something we've never managed to come close to pulling off? Detroit's a tough out at home, always. And we're going to run into a buzzsaw of good pitching against the Rays. If our hitting, especially with RISP, doesn't pick it up during this homestand, it will all start to look very similar to the 2008 ALDS.

That was over quick. First pitch hunting. How many times are other teams going to bail the White Sox out of our own self-induced problems? And just like the Royals/Sox game Tuesday, all three runs scoring on homers. We're not unlike the 2000 and 2008 offenses at this point. Homer happy, RISP averse, after being great in that area the first 4 1/2 months of the season.

Beckham with a huge chance to atone for his "error" on Yom Kippur.

I think you mean Jordan Danks, Hawk.

Now what do you do here? PH or let Viciedo hit, after a homer and another hit already today?

What errors were made when they scored 3 in the 4th? According to the box score, none. Who had a play they could/should have made defensively? Two two out runs against Liriano the difference. Seems to be a familiar happening. So I guess it was a DP ball that Beckham and Ramirez didn't turn. Gordon? They're focusing the camera on him right now.

Guess not. Hard to hit with those shadows. Had a chance on that 3rd pitch, fastball, couldn't get it. No chance on the slurve.

Dunn wouldn't do it again, would he?

Harrelson disgusted with DeAza.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:21 PM) Yeah. It's why I like Buehrle and Sale. Usually they are going to give you 7 strong innings. Peavy for the most part is like that, but has been less good the second half. Just wait until 2014 or 2015. Even you'll probably be agreeing those contract dollars for Buehrle for what he's producing at that point just aren't logical.

Seems one of the key plays of this game was Choo making that catch against Rios in the bottom of the 1st. Baseball is always going to be a game of inches.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:14 PM) Is Liriano a free agent? I wonder what team will be dumb enough to sign him. It's one thing to have an inconsistent reliever. It doesn't work when the guy is a starter. What do you think Floyd and Danks have been since 2008? The definition of inconsistency, although their good stretches were probably better than anything Liriano has done for the Sox, he at least pitched pretty well in 5 of his first 6 starts for the Sox. At least there's one cute girl in the stands today. There's that.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) With normal defense, we are leading 2-1. Or you can just say the fourth would have ended 1-0 What happened for those who were sleeping at 3:00 am, lol? I know Liriano had 4 walks again from reading the box score. Maybe you don't want to throw Cantzler any more fastballs?

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:09 PM) We've done well against Cleveland this year. We're just losing this game right now We had a streak of either 5 or 6 in a row coming into this game over the Indians, something like that. I think 6.

That didn't last long.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 25, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) Quintana out after 4 pitchers, 2 outs. He should still be good to go on Friday? Yep. Smyly threw 11 pitches in relief on Thursday and started on Sunday night. No problems.

This would be just Kluber's second win of the season in 11 tries. The other win? Against the Tigers, of course. Doesn't seem like it was worth starting this game at 1 to get YOUK's bat in the line-up.

Guess he trusts Quintana over Septimo at this point. Interesting. A little bit like how the Tigers used Smyly in a key relief situation (against OAK), not sure if he was going to be starting or not on the weekend.

Well, just woke up to find out we were losing. At least Viciedo seems to be picking it up a bit here at the end of the season. Not sure if they can afford to start Liriano again over the final 8, but maybe no choice. Wonder if that means Quintana's spot will get skipped, too? Going to have to manage that rotation on a game-by-game basis.

If the first of the three-game set between the Indians and White Sox at U.S. Cellular Field is any indication, playoff baseball is here early. The White Sox snapped a five-game losing streak with a win over Cleveland on Monday and remain one game ahead of the Tigers in the American League Central after Detroit also came out victorious. Chicago was on the verge of losing a season-high sixth straight and losing sole possession of first place in the Central until an eighth-inning three-run homer by Adam Dunn changed its fortunes and put the club back in the win column. Tuesday's matinee will be the first of five remaining games the White Sox and Indians play against each other this season -- the two will close out the season with a three-game set at Progressive Field in Cleveland. Chicago also has four games with the Rays while Detroit finishes its season with nine games against the Royals and Twins. Fully aware they can play a huge part in who wins the Central based on their remaining games against Chicago, the Indians plan to battle hard with their best players in the lineup down the final stretch of the season. "That's what we're doing," Indians manager Manny Acta said. "We'll try to put the best team on the field. You've got to respect the game." The Indians are trying to avoid their first last-place finish since 1991, and first since joining the Central division in 1994. Dunn said now is not the time to be taking any team lightly and that teams like the Indians, who are out of the postseason picture, can be especially difficult this time of the year. "September is tough because, again, when you are facing teams that aren't in it, they are going home and they know they are going home," Dunn said. "They are playing teams that they have a chance to eliminate. "That's their playoffs and also you are going to face pitchers late in the game when it matters that you haven't faced." Chicago will be counting on a big outing from Francisco Liriano, who has been inconsistent over 10 starts, and 11 apperances, with the White Sox. Liriano is 3-1 but has a 5.09 ERA over 53 innings of work and has just one victory over his last five starts. Cleveland will counter with Corey Kluber, who has one win in 10 starts this season to accompany a 5.36 ERA.

Umm....maybe if you're Sascha Baron Cohen and filming BORAT and happen to be Jewish yourself. But I don't think that's the case, here.

George SadallahThis game is on Manny's shoulders. The entire complexion of the game was changed as Manny sat on his thumbs in the dugout when White Sox stole 2nd base and was clearly out. There were 5 outs that inning and a run. Manny, I hate to say it, but you got to go!!!! You do not stick up for your players, why would I want to play for someone who does not have my back?... 33 Minutes Ago· ReplyChiefOahuMoulds71 -- No. Different personnel, different teams. About last night, Hammy sounded like he was calling a Chicago game, not a Cleveland game. Dude had to stop himself from shouting "ball game!" at the end. ... 1 Hour Ago· ReplyJuan In Walton HillsWhy did Acta do this and that. The Indians are evaluating players. They're not trying to win games. They're like the Browns and Cavs. They're getting guys "experience". You silly people think Cleveland has sports fans like in other cities where the teams try to WIN? The rebuilding capital of the wold and you haven't figured this out yet? 7 Hours Ago· ReplyMyTribeJuan, how does that explain not putting a pinch runner in for Kotchman in the ninth inning? If anything, that would be such a no brainer specifically because it gives Acta a chance to see if he can rely on Donald or LilliBridge top pinch run, and it gives LaPorta one more shot to show us something if the Indians did tie the score.... 5 Hours Ago· Reply razelmeSeriously, with Detroit winning earlier, if the Sox don't beat the Tribe, they should be criminally liable, and they sure don't deserve to win the division. ...8 Hours Ago· ReplyjoenotafanNeither do the Tigers.... 8 Hours Ago· Replyrazelmejoe, it's pretty sure the central division winner won't go to the WS this year but there's talent in the division, except for the Tribe. It will be competitive, but the Injuns have secured last place for years to come. Pity....Juan In Walton Hills likes this.User ID:7 Hours Ago joedeanNot having an effective LH reliever to face Dunn really hurt. R Perez is hurt; Hagadone hurt himself and Sipp couldn't get me out ( and I can't hit a lick) ... 8 Hours Ago· ReplyjoenotafanWith decent situational hitting, it should have been 7-2 when Dunn came to bat....User 8 Hours Ago· Reply twoleggedratboyI am a life long Reds fan and Browns fan, so I see the Indians headliners on this site a lot. I tell you I LOATH that fat bloated corpse Adam Dunn. I wish the Tribe was good, I don't begrudge them anything. ... 8 Hours Ago· Replynetfish26Paul -- I know you have to write about this stuff every night, and it's tough. I understand. However, Sale getting "knocked around" because he gave 3 runs in 7 innings -- and, in typical Indians fashion -- with 10 hits. 10 hits and only 3 runs. Haven't even check the walks yet....User 8 Hours Ago· ReplyMyTribeIndians lost three runners on the base paths, presumably hit and run plays where the batter did not make contact with the ball....User ID: 7 Hours Ago MyTribeSo, can someone explain why Kotchman was still on first base instead of LilliBridge or Donald pinch running for him? My theory is Acta did not want to put LaPorta into the game in the bottom of the ninth in the event that the Indians had tied or taken the lead. If Acta is going to be that petulant, he should be fired, now.... 8 Hours Ago· ReplyjoenotafanDunn didn't do the Indians in--they did themselves in. It should not have been close. This game was a microcosm of the whole season: Three double plays, one balk, absolutely pathetic situational hitting, three runners caught stealing, Acta, like Hargrove, ruining young pitchers. Wasted opportunities. This is the worst Indians team I have ever seen. I didn't watch the last couple of innings. I simply went to the score, clicked on "gameview" and followed the debacle. Not as painful as watching the game, and a lot less emotionally draining. Let's face it--the Indians don't know how to win--the entire organization is a loser. A few players give their best--the rest of them--well their best simply isn't good enough.... ReplyMyTribeMcAllister may have had Dunn struck out prior to his first home run. The pitch was on the lower end border of being a strike, I think the ump gave it Dunn because he is a vet and the though of McAllister throwing three by Dunn in a row was not something the ump wanted to do. Why not let Lillibridge PH for Marson against his old club? How many exIndians have had great games against the Tribe? And how many times did Lilli get clutch hits against the Tribe? Or even LaPorta for Marson? Or is LaPorta already a goner? But maybe we are giving Acta a lot of credit for even thinking about strategy? This also includes his bench coaches! Did any of them suggest something or are they allowed to? Most times I see Acta standing by himself looking like Chief Wahoo!... 8 Hours Ago· ReplyView more itemsMyTribeThe other question, why not pinch run Lillibridge for Kotchman in the ninth inning? Answer, because that would have forced Act to put LaPorta in the game in the bottom of the ninth had the Indians tied the score. A faster runner disrupts the poor throw to second base on the double play ball, the runner at first is possibly safe instead. Acta's personal feelings got in the way of actually doing the right thing, and this flies in the face of what he just said a day earlier about trying to win at all costs. I think not pinch running for Kotchman with two fast runners on the bench is a fireable offense.... 8 Hours Ago· ReplyjoenotafanThe whole season is a fire-able offense. Trouble is, it's the FO needs firing. An incompetent, short-sighted, pathetic management.... 8 Hours Agolbj4gloryYeah, that's a fine idea. Let Lillibridge -- the human error machine who bats below .200 -- into a game that has any meaning. With all due respect, he is not a major league-caliber player.... 8 Hours Ago· ReplyMyTribeHe would have just been a pinch runner. Lillibridge has speed, don't that take away from him too....