joejoesox

if griffey is butchering plays in CF, costing us games out there ala Mackowiak, you'd have to think that Ozzie would stop putting him out there. even though our defense has been pretty bad lately, ozzie seems to put the best players defensively on the field at each position if he can help it (Uribe is probably better at 2B than Alexei, but you obviously need Lexi's bat in the lineup)

QUOTE (BobDylan @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:38 PM) That Dotel guy has never been in a pressure situation. Cook me a Sloppy Joe. Yeah the Royals were in contending, meaningful games. I forgot.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 10:08 PM) That's my Dad's pet peeve . Fielders being too lazy to get in front of the ball because a backhand play looks so pretty. It can look awkward trying to get your body in front it but with runners on its crucial to knock the ball down. Cabrera is f***ing garbage in the field, for every good play he makes, he dogs it on all the rest, remember yesterday when Paulie had to use a shovel to dig out that weakass throw to first? He's bad It's probably just my mind misremembering, but it felt like Uribe playing up the middle made our team better

do we even have a top 5 AL pitching staff anymore

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:41 PM) Griffey Jr. was brought in to play CF, plain and simple. that doesn't have anything to do with my post, i know he was brought in to play CF. you missed the point i was making.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:38 PM) I turned it off after the Morneau home run and didn't look back. We can't win a close game up there anymore, the Twins are in the heads of the announcers, the players, and the fans. The bigger issue is our pitching and defense still sucks, and all the Griffey trade did, as much as I love Junior, was make both worse (although losing Masset isn't huge, but it won't help).. So much pressure on this offense right now. i agree 100%, unless Griffey is playing DH, or spelling Dye in RF against perhaps a pitcher Dye has huge problems with, he's a liability instead of a strength this year. that trade was pretty much pointless

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:33 PM) Another terrible turning point is Danks having a 1-2 count on a gift strike that was awarded after a HBP, so what does he do but WALK HIM. To leadoff the inning! That's just inexcusable. As I said in the game day thread, put the White Sox in that point and you know we're not reaching base. A lot of our pitchers have location issues when pitching in close games on the road. Remember when Logan was pitching in Baltimore earlier in the year, this is the same Boone Logan as I saw that night, and the scenario was identical. Close game, on the road, pressure situation

Logan is definitely done, I don't think anyone here would disagree with that statement. He is just terrible unless he has that sweeping slider vs. lefties, and can throw it for strikes The problem with why our pen was so terrible, well it was a few specific things 1. they were pitching scared. whether it was playing in the dome, and it being ridiculously loud or playing behind another teams fans, they were scared shi*less 2. the score was close, and they were afraid of the twins taking the lead. 3. as a result of pitching scared, they were falling behind hitters 1-0, 2-0. Thornton had Mauer at fu*king 3-1 for cryin out loud When every single guy you run out to the mound cannot locate his pitches, it's not a coincedence. They're all under the same mindset: Scared of pitching to contact, afraid of giving up the lead. We need guys in our bullpen who have been in pressure situations, and can throw strikes in close games on the road. The likes of Boone "Called up from Single A" Logan, Thornton, and Dotel are not the answer

you guys wanna know how bad our bullpen is right now, it's pretty easy to see it was 4-3 when the starter left the game it's 10-6 now. that's 7 runs. we're not winning any playoff series with these guys, sorry but it's not gonna happen

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 09:14 PM) Correct me if I'm wrong, but this was predictable after the Gardenhire meltdown. it was predictable to me when it was 4-0 and then morneau made it 4-3, once danks walked span in the 7th i knew it was over.

Boone Logan is a bad pitcher. He's just not good anymore.

at least there's no other single team in all of baseball that plays this poorly in the metrodome do the angels play the twins at all at the dome after tonight?

Boone almost throws the ball away on a pickoff Know why? Because he's scared. He's so f*cking nervous right now because he's a pussy just like everyone else in our bullpen except Jenks and Linebrink, and apparently Ehren

Can we call a timeout

Yeah hawk, we don't execute in this building Think something might need to be done about that, yeah? Some words need to be said by management/coaches, instead of just ignoring the problem for so fu*king long like they have runners 1st & 3rd, 0 outs hahahaha

HAY GUYZ, LEADOFF MAN ABOARD LOLZ this team is garbage anywhere but the cell, trash

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:55 PM) Swisher sucks with 2 strikes. the stats don't lie, he's something like a .160 hitter with 2 strikes i believe

watch swish swing at this 1-2 pitch

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:51 PM) This game is not over folks. lol, it's over

QUOTE (G&T @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:45 PM) So ends the worst inning I have ever witnessed. Could be season changing...of course, the Sox could come back....but they won't. yeah, it was intolerable and something needs to be done Danks walks leadoff guy after getting ahead 1-2 Thornton comes in, gets an out, throwns a WP, throws a nice fastball to mauer on 3-1 which ties the game Morneau grounds into a force out **** TWO OUTS RUNNER ON FIRST **** No balls time. **** Delmon Young hit by pitch. Runners on 1st and 2nd. Kubel 3-run blast. Anyway, 2-run bomb by JD but we're still not winning this game, such teasers.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:40 PM) In two out of 3 games we had a 4 run lead and lost it in one inning. This time we give it up and THEY get a 3 run lead on US. f***ing unreal. it's your classic no-nuts, scared sh*tless performance when you're playing behind the fans of the other team, our entire bullpen sans Linebrink and Jenks have been like that mostly all year i can't even name how many times i've seen them hold onto pitches too long, causing them to sail past AJ, or walking guys that have sub .230 averages, or throwing meatballs on 2-2 they're just really really bad on the road, because they can't handle the pressure they will be terrible in the playoffs, mark my words, if we get there.

Thornton, Masset (who is now gone), Dotel, Boone are all pussies in pressure situations, have been that way all year Not good when you're in a pennant race, that's for damn sure Grow a pair you sacks of sh**.

LOLOLOLOL Our pitchers have no f***ing balls 7-4 twins

COME ON DOTEL. WHY CAN'T YOU THROW A STRIKE? What's wrong with these guys? Get your heads out of your f***ing asses

a few things 1. matt thornton has no balls in big situations, i've seen this guy pitch scared (like masset) in situations/games like this ever since 2006 2. twins have a huge chance to win this game now IMO, bigger chance than we do 3. not having linebrink in the pen really hurts this team right now