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QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:55 PM) Check your math Good catch

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:28 PM) And that's the scary part, because we know every year he will hit more then 40, some years maybe 50 or so. So he could hit 33-39 when he's 40, 41, and 42, and he'd still hit 810. Yes, it would be very scary if he does that.. however.. history says he most likely wont still be hitting that many.. there was a pretty good article on ESPN talking about the same thing

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) I never said it wasn't. But in the event that he does go to jail and all that, will he get to the HOF? Will his HR total still remain at 755? Will records he set, like 73 in a season, be erased? Couldn't tell you, all I know for sure is it will never happen so I guess we will never find out..

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:16 PM) Well yeah, but like Hall of Fame, or no? 755, or 600? I think going to federal prison is prolly a much, much bigger concern than any of that

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:14 PM) They didn't have his steroids in Ruth's day. Speculation

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:12 PM) Do you guys think Bonds will ever come out and say he did it? Or Anderson? If they do, what will happen to Bonds? Um, jail?

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:10 PM) Yea, maybe, but we'll never know. I'll concede todays players are much stronger, atheletic and probably better (as in any sport). It would be really interesting to see the old style of play match up against todays. Just curious, do you also think that guys like Mays, Ted Williams, Banks, Mantle would get dominated by todays players? they weren't that big compared to todays stars. Maybe not dominated, but I don't think any of them would be as glorified as they are today when their careers were up

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:07 PM) Paige's MLB career was pretty inconsequential (I mean, obviously, in terms of actual production). His real legacy depends almost entirely on his Negro League career. It's not easy to compare black players to white players. The very first guys were, unsurprisingly, among the best (like Robinson). Others (like Paige) were past their prime. But to claim that all white players were just inferior is completely baseless. When Robinson showed up, he was a GREAT player. But he wasn't in a different league. Ruth was. If you want to argue that Josh Gibson is better than Ruth, fine. They were both great, and I can't really compare the two. But Bonds is still well behind Ruth in terms of his career, when compared to his peers. That's with the roid-dependent numbers, and I don't think anyone could credibly argue that the big gap could be made up just because of discrimination. Take away the roids and the comparison is laughable. Fair enough, but I stand by what I said.. We both have different views about this, nothing wrong with that at all

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 11:04 PM) And I promise you, Bonds doesn't put up the numbers he's put up now in Babe Ruth's day. You're right, he wouldn't.. they would more than likely be much better numbers than he has now..

QUOTE(briguy27 @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:59 PM) Yes it will. If A-Rod ends this year with 510, and hits exactly 40 a year for the next 10 years, he'll end up with 810. Scary. Yes because its highly probable that A Rod hits 40 Hrs when hes 40, 41, 42.. Im sure there will be ZERO HGH/Steroid questions if A Rod doesn't decline at any point after 35 years old.. And even if there is, HGH is undetectable, so good luck proving that..

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:52 PM) Even after MLB integration there have been plenty of great white baseball players, it hasn't really been "game over". But I understand what you are getting at and agree in many ways, but I also think you greatly underestimate the skills of the MLB players back in Ruth's era. I don't think I am underestimating it at all, its just fact that people are bigger and stronger in this era than they were in the late 1800's to early 1900's.. I don't think any player from back then could cut it now, also, obviously I didn't mean game over in the way you took it, but if it was integrated at Ruths time, I think I can safely say he would not have had the numbers that he does now..

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:41 PM) Please. It's convenient but absurd to ignore the era in which they played. Bonds was an excellent player, often the best in the league. Ruth was a phenomenon. When Bonds outhomers every other team in his league, let me know. And if he could do it without steroids, I might even consider your argument. Ok, Ruth was clearly the best player of his ERA.. congratulations, he was better than all white players in the early 1900's. Yeah, he was a phenomenon, again congratulations (AGAIN) that he was the best white player out of a league of white players. Satchel Paige is regarded as one of the greatest pitchers ever and he was considered, what, the 9th best pitcher in the Negro Leagues? All they needed to do was let black guys play and it would have been game over for the white guys. He was the best player in his era... but in this era, he wouldn't have been s***.. this isn't beer league softball..

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:36 PM) He was fat, too. PS: some would say, Bonds got to play in Coors Field, and Bonds played in the Expansion Era against pitchers that would've been in AAA in Ruth's day. I seriously doubt that, I am sure that a lot of AAA pitchers in this day of age would have been great back when Ruth played.. Sorry, but Ruth played against all white players back in a time where there is no way players were as athletic or just flat out good as they are today..

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:28 PM) No, no, he's not. Even with his absurdly roid-reliant golden years, he's nowhere close to Ruth. Not even ballpark. Haha yes, Ruth who not only played against inferior talent than Bonds has but also doesn't even have better overall numbers than Bonds is clearly better..

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:26 PM) I'm at a hotel right now, and they don't have ESPN2. I didn't think I could hate extreme sports more than I already did.....but I do now. Ah man, youre gonna have to catch the replay it was awesome..

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:19 PM) You're replying to, "Bonds is the greatest hitter of his time". Hes still the greatest of all time regardless

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:08 PM) I don't think Bonds is the greatest hitter of his time. Hes not just the greatest hitter of his time, hes the greatest hitter of all time..

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 10:04 PM) 256 more! Hurry! Never gonna happen

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 09:57 PM) If Hensley is in the game and challenges Bonds again, he will break the record tonight. I hope that is the case

QUOTE(Brian @ Aug 4, 2007 -> 09:51 PM) He looked kind of sad, didn't he? He can stick it This was badass

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