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Would the Reds take on 2/3rds of Rios if it meant getting Floyd for 2 B level pitching prospects?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 08:08 AM) DeAza is going nowhere even if they sign Cespedes. Yup - I should have clarified that I meant adios DeAza in terms of starting. It's kinda a pain in the ass to only have 1 typing hand.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 04:23 AM) The guy is at least 26 years old. If a team gives him the money they are talking about, its to play in the major leagues, and the Sox owe Rios close to $40 million. No way they release him. If we get Cespedes - it'll mean an outfield of Cespedes - Rios - Tank They'd say adios to DeAza if they signed Cespedes.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 1, 2012 -> 08:09 PM) I'd like to think we all are...... But of course I just really enjoy watching KW pick up reclamation projects for Cooper... for me that interest started with Loiza back in what... '03? Can pitchers and catchers report already or do we really have to wait 7 more weeks

I'm hoping Simon Castro pans out.

Does anyone have a link to a video of Q and his hand injury of '08?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 31, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) Viciedo had an injured hand last year. I broke my right hand 2 weeks ago - gives me a new found respect for the implications player injuries of the like have on the field.

Q: Love ya brotha - mash in SD. Get paid in '13.

Williams and Byrnes on the prospects:

Williams on the salary relief aspect of dealing Q:

From the Washington Post: About Carlos and his SD roots:

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) Cowley: @Oneyguillen @espnchijon ... who is not on there? I'm going to guess his bottom 3 he managed were Swish, C. Lee and Dunn. Oney: @cst_Cowley don't think c lee was on there to be honest for sure swish I think. Dunn it wasn't personal Not sure if that brings any insight to this conversation but I guess Oz and Dunn weren't best buddies. It says it wasn't personal.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 11:58 PM) Oh, and DIRT cheap for a while. Once Peavy is off the books our rotation will cost like 20-25 Million for a few years. That leaves the rest to spend on an offense. It's not so bad looking forward...if Molina, Sale and Humber work out. I understand that's a big time IF but so is everything in this silly game we love more than our families. Thanks for the perspective - it gives me more hope than I was having over the past couple weeks. I want Cespedes. Fu*k Rios. Thou, I also agree with Detroit being in a better situation than us.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 27, 2011 -> 11:16 PM) I stopped when you suggested Humber could or would put up a 1.00 WHIP next year. If any of you recall, it was me (and maybe J4L?) who were the ONLY two people who welcomed and thought he would be a decent pitcher for us, and I STILL am not that optimistic about Humber. I think he is due for a regression, and AT BEST, he repeats his very solid 2010 proformance. I think J4L or Milkman where not to up on Humber and actually really trashed him last year before the season started. Having him as a #5 was completely unacceptable to them if I recall correctly. Giving Humber a chance last season and being optimistic about him was one thing I did call right last year. Another was Thornton pissing the bed. Beckham and Dunn where completely out of left field to me. I missed those two.

If I didn't know you all better - I'd think something like: Calm it down ladies.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 23, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) If you want Quentin you gotta take Rios, otherwise GFY. I hope that's KW stance on the issue. bwhahahahahahahahah

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 23, 2011 -> 08:09 PM) Porcello and Scherzer remain the keys to that rotation, along with Jacob Turner. Yup, I expect them to step it up as well. It IS baseball thou - anything can happen. Dunn could hit 40 bomb - or 12... either wouldn't surprise me. Rios could be totally worthless or put up a 4 WAR - either wouldn't surprise me. Humber could throw to a ~1 WHIP or could put up a 1.5 - either wouldn't surprise me. It's gonna be an interesting 2012 - but I'm not expecting us to beat Detroit this year.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Dec 23, 2011 -> 08:04 PM) Anything is possible because they could just feast again on their division foes. But it is going to be hard for them to be as good as last year. I'm thinking a full year of Fister will do wonders for them. Edit: Sorry, I'm getting off topic. Cespedes makes me happy, get him please. Black and white uniform = GOOD Any other uniform = BAD That's all you need to know Cespedes.

QUOTE (heath821 @ Dec 23, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) If we can sign cespedes I would like to see an outfield of viciedo, cespedes and CQ with de aza and rios on the bench. After extending danks and praying for a bounce back year from dunn and beckam I think the sox could have a shot with that lineup in a mediocre AL central Detroit might not be so mediocre - I'd even expect them to be BETTER than last year.

wtf???? woza. i'm baffled.

how odd indeed.

QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 20, 2011 -> 09:37 PM) Viciedo will be great on this team as a part time DH/4th OF. I am all about pitching and defense. I thought the tank had a crazy good arm?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 08:18 AM) Gonzalez, Shields, Jurrens, Garza, and Wandy Rodriguez... Add Danks and Floyd to that list and you've got 7 SP available. Add Oswalt and Jackson to that list and you've got 9 SP available. So, there's a balance between waiting too long and letting the market develop. 1 starting pitcher is off the block now and we're down to 7 SP available on the trade market. There's gonna be a lot of activity around the league soon. Since things didn't really take form at the meetings this year - we're looking at the next couple of weeks as the time in which the action will pick up. My guess is that during the rest of the off-season, we'll see at least 2 more blockbuster type moves.... one of which will involve the Sox. Has it been boring thus far? Absolutely.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 18, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) I dont see this. Latos', Gio's, Jurrjens' controlled status only reduces Danks' value. Danks is a rental and that's a huge problem in terms of return. I think it does help set the value. If 3 years of arbitration on Latos = Grandal, Alonso, Volquez, and Boxberger then 1 year of Danks at about 8M = x? Seems to me that we're looking at a top 50 SP prospect from an org as well as another arm or position player from the teams top 10.